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    Quote Originally Posted by Supercomputer View Post
    Why should catalonians have to finance poorer regions of Spain? Catalonians see themselves as distinct people so how is the situation different than with Slovenia in Yugoslavia or Estonia in the Soviet Union? (Ok except maybe for communism). But IMO Catalonians have a right to self determination. Especially if they are more productive than Castilians.
    A little state of 8 millions inhabitants will never be fully independant, it's a fiction. They should stay in Spain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Visage pâle View Post
    A little state of 8 millions inhabitants will never be fully independant, it's a fiction. They should stay in Spain.
    Switzerland ? Sweden ? Norway ? Denmark ? Iceland ? Luxembourg ? Liechtenstein ? Finland ? Estonia ? Latvia ? Lithuania ? Slovenia ? Croatia ? Bosnia ? Serbia ? Albania ? Andorra ? Monaco ? Ireland ? San Marino ? Liechtenstein ? Austria ?



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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker View Post
    Switzerland ? Sweden ? Norway ? Denmark ? Iceland ? Luxembourg ? Liechtenstein ? Finland ? Estonia ? Latvia ? Lithuania ? I may have forgotten a few. Slovenia ? Croatia ? Bosnia ? Serbia ? Albania ?
    They are under influence of big countries, thoses who have true power. Imagine France after 1815 it was still a considerable power and yet she was always under British leadership/influence.
    Now imagine now theses littles countries with Monsters like USA. A little country isn't independant, sadly but it's like that.

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    double post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Visage pâle View Post
    double post.
    The problem is actually the existence of big countries. Particularly those with an imperialist tradition - like France. The more they are broken and up and con-federalised, the better.



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    Each day (for many years now) him and his Basque and Catalan friends have been teaching me a lot about our shared ancestry and the Basque culture.
    This is also an oxymoron, Catalans are somewhat Eastern-shifted Spaniards when Basques are WHG-shifted outliers. These sub-ethnics are the most distant genetically in the Iberian peninsula.

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    I support a peaceful, official, referendum which would be overseen by independent third-party. The result of said referendum would be binding for a number of years, after which, if there is enough agitation, they may do another to see if the Catalonians wish to remain independent (or to stay). If the second referendum follows the first, then it would be binding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker View Post
    Switzerland ? Sweden ? Norway ? Denmark ? Iceland ? Luxembourg ? Liechtenstein ? Finland ? Estonia ? Latvia ? Lithuania ? Slovenia ? Croatia ? Bosnia ? Serbia ? Albania ? Andorra ? Monaco ? Ireland ? San Marino ? Liechtenstein ? Austria ?
    How many of these countries have had any real influence?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Faklon View Post
    How many of these countries has had any real influence?
    Most have regional influence and work together in blocks. The Benelux comes to mind.



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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker View Post
    Switzerland ? Sweden ? Norway ? Denmark ? Iceland ? Luxembourg ? Liechtenstein ? Finland ? Estonia ? Latvia ? Lithuania ? Slovenia ? Croatia ? Bosnia ? Serbia ? Albania ? Andorra ? Monaco ? Ireland ? San Marino ? Liechtenstein ? Austria ?
    All these countries only exist to have us divided to the Europeans, the more the better. Norway, Sweden, Denmark and Iceland should form a single country, like Finland and Estonia; Latvia and Lithuania should also be a single country, just as Moldova and the Ukrainian region of Budjak should be reinstated in Romania. Germany should include Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Austria and the German-speaking Swiss cantons, Yugoslavia should be reunificated, Andorra should be integrated into Spain and Cyprus should join Greece. Among many other things.

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