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    Quote Originally Posted by AlfonsoVIII View Post
    All these countries only exist to have us divided to the Europeans, the more the better. Norway, Sweden, Denmark and Iceland should form a single country, like Finland and Estonia; Latvia and Lithuania should also be a single country, just as Moldova and the Ukrainian region of Budjak should be reinstated in Romania. Germany should include Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Austria and the German-speaking Swiss cantons, Yugoslavia should be reunificated, Andorra should be integrated into Spain and Cyprus should join Greece. Among many other things.
    Again: Spaniards show themselves to be imperialistic in nature. No, thanks. What we need are countries like Spain, Germany and France to be either Swissified or broken up. Power to the people themselves - not to empires.



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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker View Post
    The problem is actually the existence of big countries. Particularly those with an imperialist tradition - like France. The more they are broken and up and con-federalised, the better.
    Look Portugal, de facto it was a british protectorat during centuries, the same for Greece in XIXth century.
    As independant power France is dead in 1815, Britain in 1940 and Germany in 1945. Little independants countries are fictions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Visage pâle View Post
    Look Portugal, de facto it was a british protectorat during centuries, the same for Greece in XIXth century.
    As independant power France is dead in 1815, Britain in 1940 and Germany in 1945. Little independants countries are fictions.
    Nonsense. What you're saying is: France should lord over Belgium, Luxembourg and Switzerland because they are small countries.



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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker View Post
    Again: Spaniards show themselves to be imperialistic in nature. No, thanks. What we need are countries like Spain, Germany and France to be either Swissified or broken up. Power to the people themselves - not to empires.

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    Who is "imperialist"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlfonsoVIII View Post

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    Who is "imperialist"?
    That doesn't mean that I want a unified Germania. I want a Germanic Council modelled on the Nordic Council or the Benelux.



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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker View Post
    That doesn't mean that I want a unified Germania. I want a Germanic Council modelled on the Nordic Council or the Benelux.
    That's a modern imperialism. Same dog, different leash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlfonsoVIII View Post
    That's a modern imperialism. Same dog, different leash.
    Bullshit. Those are sovereign countries working together. Unlike Spain where Catalonia and the Basques are kept under the Moorish..Castilian (same shit, anyway) boot.



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    Quote Originally Posted by ♥ Lily ♥ View Post
    One of my closest friends on this forum is from the Basque Country and he's extremely pro British and pro Anglosphere nations.

    We've been friends for many long years on YT too before we joined this site, where I used to make videos for many years on his behalf about the Basque country.

    Each day (for many years now) him and his Basque and Catalan friends have been teaching me a lot about our shared ancestry and the Basque culture, in addition to telling me a lot about what they've endured by the Spanish and how much he hates Spain and wants to be independent.

    He thanked me yesterday for supporting the Basques and Catalans but he said he doesn't want to speak to Spanish posters on the forum as they irritate him a lot.

    Cristiano is just the icing-on-the-cake.
    Ok let's see...Catalonian "nationalism" has a history of less than 10 years, it's one of the most retarded nationalism. They have never been independent as a nation or as a kingdom or whatever and they don't have their own ethnicity (they are the same Iberian as an Andalusian). The truth is that Catalonian politicians have tried to hide their own incompetence and corruption with a fictional nationalism and they have tried to cheat their own citizens.

    Basque nationalism has more tradition but even with that nowadays the statistics show that their level is very low. Historically the Basque nationalism has been pro Irish because they had contacts with the Irish party Sinn Féin. So as you can see a Basque nationalist NEVER will be pro English. So or your "friends" are completely ignorants or you are lying.

    You say "They've endured by the Spanish"... they? who? endured about what? some example please? Did you know that some Catalan nationalist politicians are in fact Castilians? Did you know that the current Spanish government is composed among other by Catalan ministers? No, you didn't know it. In fact you don't know nothing.

    My conclusions:
    1- Your friends are completely ignorant. Tell them that they can talk with me.
    2-You are lying like a troll. Very strange that your imaginary friends belong to this forum but they never speak.

    By the way, I have Catalan and Basque roots so you are not going to give me lessons about my own people and my own history

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker View Post
    Bullshit. Those are sovereign countries working together. Unlike Spain where Catalonia and the Basques are kept under the Moorish..Castilian (same shit, anyway) boot.
    It's obvious that you haven't fucking idea of ​​the political situation in Spain, so the best thing you can do is shut up, as it is obscene for a Dutch whore to try anti-imperialism lessons coming from a country that built a colonial empire based on blood and slavery. Indonesian, South African and Surinamese people will know what I'm talking about. By the way, since you speak to me of independence, when do you think you grant independence to the Netherlands Antilles?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlfonsoVIII View Post
    It's obvious that you haven't fucking idea of ​​the political situation in Spain, so the best thing you can do is shut up, as it is obscene for a Dutch whore to try anti-imperialism lessons coming from a country that built a colonial empire based on blood and slavery. Indonesian, South African and Surinamese people will know what I'm talking about. By the way, since you speak to me of independence, when do you think you grant independence to the Netherlands Antilles?
    And we learned that one from you. As for the Netherlands Antilles ? There was various referendums on that in 2010: https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Staatk...er_Nederlanden and, unfortunately as the Dutch want them to leave, they voted to become independent countries (on an equal station with the Netherlands) in the Kingdom of the Netherlands with several islands voting to join the Netherlands outright. The Netherlands Antilles hasn't existed since 2010 and even before then they were a country within the Kingdom and have been since 1954. Unless you give the same rights to the Catalans and others (including Ceuta, Melila and the Canary Islands), you shouldn't be talking.

    Dutch politics have no influence in any of the islands, except for the SSB which joined the Netherlands.



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