Page 42 of 59 FirstFirst ... 3238394041424344454652 ... LastLast
Results 411 to 420 of 588

Thread: I support Catalonia Independance

  1. #411
    Veteran Member Ruggery's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2017
    Last Online
    03-26-2024 @ 03:46 PM
    Meta-Ethnicity
    Germanic,Celtic, Romance
    Ethnicity
    Ancestry iberian, german, italian
    Country
    Argentina
    Gender
    Posts
    13,370
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 5,167
    Given: 4,757

    0 Not allowed!

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo View Post
    No digas tonterías. Una variante suena a que deriva del portugués, o que es un dialecto suyo. Cuando es todo lo contrario. Me fascina cuando veo a gente decir que los gallegos son portugueses o decir que los gallegos hablan portugués, cuando de ser algo sería justo lo contrario.
    Yo no digo q sea portugues yo solo digo q son muy parecidos.

  2. #412
    Aging Tom Cat Apricity Funding Member
    "Friend of Apricity"

    Mopi Licinius Crassus's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2014
    Last Online
    @
    Location
    chester
    Meta-Ethnicity
    Iberian, Celtic, Germanic
    Ethnicity
    caucasian
    Ancestry
    Northern England, SE Ireland, Northern Ireland, Castilla Spain
    Country
    England
    Y-DNA
    R-DF27 (R1b1a2a1a2a) R-Y3267
    mtDNA
    H6A1B
    Gender
    Posts
    4,919
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 4,994
    Given: 10,520

    1 Not allowed!

  3. #413
    Aging Tom Cat Apricity Funding Member
    "Friend of Apricity"

    Mopi Licinius Crassus's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2014
    Last Online
    @
    Location
    chester
    Meta-Ethnicity
    Iberian, Celtic, Germanic
    Ethnicity
    caucasian
    Ancestry
    Northern England, SE Ireland, Northern Ireland, Castilla Spain
    Country
    England
    Y-DNA
    R-DF27 (R1b1a2a1a2a) R-Y3267
    mtDNA
    H6A1B
    Gender
    Posts
    4,919
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 4,994
    Given: 10,520

    3 Not allowed!

    Default

    this is a comment from a catalan poster on an article about the catalan crisis in the financial times


    "When you consider the financial and demographic situation of Catalonia this is sheer economic insanity.

    All the banks are Spanish, even La Caixa (La Caixa has the bulk of its asset and deposit base outside of Catalonia). Separatism does not have a leg to stand on financially speaking. Catalonia has no capital to start it´s own banking system. There are even chest beating wealthy separatists walking on marches today with their bank accounts safely away from Catalonia (this is very typical Bourgeoisie Catalan behaviour). My Catalan family took everything out 2 years ago. There were queues of Catalans in Branches in Aragon and Madrid. That capital is not coming back.



    The ECB only lends to Spanish banks. Lose your Spanish bank license and you have lost ECB access. With a poor credit rating you won´t get ECB access either. The ECB wants to get is money back on the sovereign debt it has funded. The ECB is not going to tolerate instability.



    Generalitat the Catalonias Euro 60 bn debt pile is financed 75% now, Euro 60 bn yes. by the Central Governenment because nobody in the financial system wants to lend to the Generalitat, certainly not at the ridiculously low rate of 1% at which the FLA (the Madrid Government) lends to it. Without the FLA (i.e. Madrid), Generalitat would not be able to pay it´s wages within 6 weeks as they fall due.



    Notes and Coins arrive into Catalan branches of Spanish banks from the rest of Spain (Casa de la Moneda y Timbre). Spanish government only would need to intercept deliveries of notes and coins and you would have an immediate localised Catalan bank run. Catalan depositors would have to get on the car, drive away from Catalonia to get cash in neighbouring regions. Slightly inconvenient.



    The pensions hole in Catalonia is the largest of any Spanish region. Funnily enough, Madrid region has a pension surplus because of it´s younger workforce and economic growth.



    As to businesses, you only need to look at the trade surplus to know who suffers more.



    Then there is the not small issue of belonging to the EU, with France and Spain having a veto over the appearance of any new Country.



    As a man of finance, I think separatism is sheer lunacy. Now, organising beautiful marches and gatherings yes I give them full credit for that. But you cannot eat marches, gatherings or yellow ribbons.



    Then there is the bigger issue of half of Catalan residents opposing separatism. Here it is not money but feelings and the potential for civil strife within Catalonia. Here the separatists will say "we are a peaceful movement",... but what happens when the other half decides that the prefer to fight rather than speak. What do you do then, tell me? Northern Ireland x5. And many of those Catalans loyal to Spain feel as 2nd class citizens in Catalonia, do not trust the Catalan police or it´s educational system.



    My two predictions are that there is no creation of a new country without

    a) a very bloody period of civil strife

    b) an exit from the Euro and a collapse of finances in Catalonia"

  4. #414
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Last Online
    09-04-2023 @ 02:54 PM
    Location
    The Deep Spain
    Meta-Ethnicity
    Spanish paleto culture
    Ethnicity
    Spanish paleto culture
    Ancestry
    Castellanos
    Country
    Spain
    Region
    Castile and Leon
    Y-DNA
    Castellanos
    mtDNA
    Castellanos
    Taxonomy
    Spanish paleto culture
    Politics
    Preserving Spanish paleto culture
    Religion
    The only one true Christianism is the Spanish Inquisition
    Gender
    Posts
    49,212
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 25,690
    Given: 23,946

    1 Not allowed!

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Ruggery View Post
    Yo no digo q sea portugues yo solo digo q son muy parecidos.
    Es cierto, son muy parecidos. Pero así lo son el portugués y el castellano ( mucho menos que portugués y gallego pero parecidos al fin y al cabo).

  5. #415
    Veteran Member perikolez's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Last Online
    04-10-2024 @ 08:05 PM
    Meta-Ethnicity
    basque
    Ethnicity
    basque , 25% castilian
    Country
    Spain
    Gender
    Posts
    4,216
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 2,586
    Given: 0

    0 Not allowed!

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo View Post
    Es cierto, son muy parecidos. Pero así lo son el portugués y el castellano ( mucho menos que portugués y gallego pero parecidos al fin y al cabo).
    En realidad la mayoría de las lenguas romances con la excepción del francés y el rumanos son parecidas. Aproposito, no le digas a Casillas que el castellano y el portugués son parecidos, porque debe lllevar un par de años en Portugal y todavía es incapaz de hacer ni siquiera una entrevista sencillita en portugués.

  6. #416
    Veteran Member Ruggery's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2017
    Last Online
    03-26-2024 @ 03:46 PM
    Meta-Ethnicity
    Germanic,Celtic, Romance
    Ethnicity
    Ancestry iberian, german, italian
    Country
    Argentina
    Gender
    Posts
    13,370
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 5,167
    Given: 4,757

    0 Not allowed!

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by perikolez View Post
    En realidad la mayoría de las lenguas romances con la excepción del francés y el rumanos son parecidas. Aproposito, no le digas a Casillas que el castellano y el portugués son parecidos, porque debe lllevar un par de años en Portugal y todavía es incapaz de hacer ni siquiera una entrevista sencillita en portugués.
    El frances es un intermedio entre el latin, el lenguaje germanico franco y un poco del céltico.
    El rumano tiene muchas influencias de las lenguas eslavas.

  7. #417
    Veteran Member Ruggery's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2017
    Last Online
    03-26-2024 @ 03:46 PM
    Meta-Ethnicity
    Germanic,Celtic, Romance
    Ethnicity
    Ancestry iberian, german, italian
    Country
    Argentina
    Gender
    Posts
    13,370
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 5,167
    Given: 4,757

    0 Not allowed!

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo View Post
    Es cierto, son muy parecidos. Pero así lo son el portugués y el castellano ( mucho menos que portugués y gallego pero parecidos al fin y al cabo).
    Es cierto son muy parecidos,al igual que todas los lenguas ibéricas exceptuando el euskera.

  8. #418
    Ice MustafaTekin's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2017
    Last Online
    08-11-2020 @ 05:03 PM
    Ethnicity
    asd
    Country
    Iceland
    Gender
    Posts
    1,325
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 660
    Given: 656

    1 Not allowed!

    Default

    A mini version of the third world war is currently being fought in the middle east. At times it is not even possible to know who is fighting against whom. The attempt to preserve the existing ones or establish new states results in thousands to hundreds of thousands of deaths. as far as the 'backward' middle east is concerned- this is the reality. but what is preventing the catalans,flemings,basques, scots from independence?

    it's a mystery to me.

  9. #419
    Curaca Incal's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Last Online
    Today @ 01:39 AM
    Meta-Ethnicity
    Exotic Med
    Ethnicity
    Racial Tragedy
    Country
    Peru
    Politics
    Xenelasia
    Religion
    Chinas con Culo
    Gender
    Posts
    26,533
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 18,415
    Given: 13,128

    0 Not allowed!

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Duffmannn View Post
    Es que el que dicha lengua se llame "catalán" debería hacer saltar las alarmas a cualquiera.

    Cuando el "catalán" no es sino un dialecto de la macrolengua occitana que hasta finales del siglo XIX era denominado lemosín, uno más de tantos dialectos occitanos como el gascón , el provenzal o el balear.

    Y van los tíos y les ponen de nombre "catalán", de un día para otro, así por la puta cara. Los valencianos se quejan y con razón.
    O sea que el catalán y valenciano son prácticamente la misma cosa?

  10. #420
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Last Online
    09-04-2023 @ 02:54 PM
    Location
    The Deep Spain
    Meta-Ethnicity
    Spanish paleto culture
    Ethnicity
    Spanish paleto culture
    Ancestry
    Castellanos
    Country
    Spain
    Region
    Castile and Leon
    Y-DNA
    Castellanos
    mtDNA
    Castellanos
    Taxonomy
    Spanish paleto culture
    Politics
    Preserving Spanish paleto culture
    Religion
    The only one true Christianism is the Spanish Inquisition
    Gender
    Posts
    49,212
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 25,690
    Given: 23,946

    1 Not allowed!

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Incal View Post
    O sea que el catalán y valenciano son prácticamente la misma cosa?
    Sí. Pero si nos lee un valenciano le da un patatús. Odian que les digas que su idioma se llama catalán
    Y ya si les llamas catalanes del sur directamente te agreden.

Page 42 of 59 FirstFirst ... 3238394041424344454652 ... LastLast

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 1
    Last Post: 11-19-2019, 08:43 AM
  2. Independance birthday
    By Jehan in forum Suomi
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 12-06-2017, 08:05 PM
  3. Independance movement in the US
    By Jehan in forum United States
    Replies: 12
    Last Post: 07-01-2017, 12:10 PM
  4. Groenland in the road to independance
    By Jehan in forum Danmark
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 10-30-2016, 07:40 AM
  5. Replies: 122
    Last Post: 07-09-2012, 08:25 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •