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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigranes View Post
    Excuse me meson but what kind of absurd statement is this, Caucasians or Middle Easterners have nothing to do with horse breeders from Central Asia. Middle East and Caucasus were cradles of many great civilizations,on the other hand, only thing that Central Asians are known for is pillaging, nothing but nomads with no contribution to the mandkind.
    Not only this but how in the hell does North Africa factor into this?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigranes View Post
    Excuse me meson but what kind of absurd statement is this, Caucasians or Middle Easterners have nothing to do with horse breeders from Central Asia. Middle East and Caucasus were cradles of many great civilizations,on the other hand, only thing that Central Asians are known for is pillaging, nothing but nomads with no contribution to the mandkind.
    I am turanid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FinalFlash View Post
    Not only this but how in the hell does North Africa factor into this?
    if a Mong looking Finn and black haired portuguese can be part of one grand "white" family then whats wrong with N.Africa being part of MENA+CA+Caucasus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meson View Post
    if a Mong looking Finn and black haired portuguese can be part of one grand "white" family then whats wrong with N.Africa being part of MENA+CA+Caucasus.
    Everything. Language, culture, genetics. mentality etc. In some cases sectarian differences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FinalFlash View Post
    Everything. Language, culture, genetics. mentality etc. In some cases sectarian differences.
    I dont get it.

    Turkeman have a very strong connection to Iranian plateau history.
    Tajiks are Iranics
    Afghans are Iranics

    Whats so different ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by meson View Post
    if a Mong looking Finn and black haired portuguese can be part of one grand "white" family then whats wrong with N.Africa being part of MENA+CA+Caucasus.
    I doubt that a black haired Greek(or let it be another non-Slavic South European) would feel culturally closer to a Mong looking Finn than a person from Caucasus or Turkey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meson View Post
    I dont get it.

    Turkeman have a very strong connection to Iranian plateau history.
    Tajiks are Iranics
    Afghans are Iranics

    Whats so different ?
    What works for a certain ethnicity, doesn't work for another. Tajiks are very related to Iranians, but Tajiks are not very related to Levantines for instance, whereas Iranians are related to Levantines to a degree. My point is that you have to draw a line somewhere and for me that line doesn't begin in Casablanca and ends in Kabul like you would suggest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigranes View Post
    I doubt that a black haired Greek(or let it be another non-Slavic South European) would feel culturally closer to a Mong looking Finn than a person from Caucasus or Turkey.

    But they are all "whites"

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    Quote Originally Posted by FinalFlash View Post
    What works for a certain ethnicity, doesn't work for another. Tajiks are very related to Iranians, but Tajiks are not very related to Levantines for instance, whereas Iranians are related to Levantines to a degree. My point is that you have to draw a line somewhere and for me that line doesn't begin in Casablanca and ends in Kabul like you would suggest.
    Tajiks are Iranians as much as Persians or Kurds are. These synthetic border lines mean nothing.

    I do agree with you though. We can exclude Kazakhs, Kyrgyz, Uzbeks etc but Tajiks, Afghans, and some Turkmen are very related to MENA History through their Iranic connection. One can deny this for his own small nation nationalism syndrome but that wont change the history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meson View Post
    Tajiks are Iranians as much as Persians or Kurds are. These synthetic border lines mean nothing.

    I do agree with you though. We can exclude Kazakhs, Kyrgyz, Uzbeks etc but Tajiks, Afghans, and some Turkmen are very related to MENA History through their Iranic connection. One can deny this for his own small nation nationalism syndrome but that wont change the history.
    You can argue that some West Asian populations have ties to Central Asians, but that doesn't mean that other West asian populations have ties to Central Asia. It's ridiculous, almost as much as this bs "MENA" label.

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