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    Muslims yes, christians no.

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    Isn't Lebanon a young country.

    Did they previously see themselves as Syrians ?

    What is the difference between Lebanese and Syrians ?
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    Of course they're Arabs. Their mother tongue is Arabic and has been for many centuries. Also, their ancestry is chiefly Semitic and probably includes blood from real Arab tribes too, as Arabian tribes were already settled in the Levant in late ancient times. By the late Roman era the Arabs in this region were even Christian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheForeigner View Post
    Of course they're Arabs. Their mother tongue is Arabic and has been for many centuries.
    They were not Arabs before the Arab invasion in 637 CE, should they change their identity after that date?

    Before Egypt fell to Arabs in 639 CE, Egyptians spoke Coptic, and Copts were not Arab.
    Even the Arabic word “Misr” (Egypt) is from Hebrew origin and has no meaning in Arabic.

    Speaking the language would make them Arabophones or Arabic speaking people, not Arabs.

    Are Americans, Australians, Nigerians, Ghanaians, Namibians, Liberians, Jamaicans, and Singaporeans English because they speak English?

    Are Brazilians, Angolans, Cape Verdeans and Mozambicans Portuguese because they speak Portuguese?

    Are Mexicans, Columbians, Argentinians, Peruvians, Venezuelans, Chileans, Ecuadorians, Cubans and Bolivians Spanish because they speak Spanish?

    Are Canadians (Quebec), Belgians, Congolese, Cameroonians, Senegalese and Malagasy French because they speak French?

    What if a new superpower (let’s say China) invade us, impose their language, culture and religion...would we become Chinese and embrace the new identity?


    Quote Originally Posted by TheForeigner View Post
    Also, their ancestry is chiefly Semitic and probably includes blood from real Arab tribes too
    "Semite" is a language group, not a racial, religious or ethnic group. Maybe you meant Semitic speaking people, not Semitic people. Your "Semites" never referred to themselves as "Semites" (since this terminology was first used in the 1770).

    Egyptians were Hamites until they became Semitized with the advent of Islam.

    Should Jews for instance, who lived under Arab/Ottoman rule and who spoke Arabic should also be called Arabs because they spoke Arabic, were levantines and "Semites".



    Quote Originally Posted by TheForeigner View Post
    As Arabian tribes were already settled in the Levant in late ancient times.
    What was the name of their main cities, outside the desert?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheForeigner View Post
    By the late Roman era the Arabs in this region were even Christian.
    The full translation of the Bible into Arabic did not come about until nearly 150 years ago.
    The fact that there is no Arab Church with specific cultural identifiers such as Christian Arab style church buildings, Arab vestments, Arab iconology or traditions is a proof that this so-called church never existed in the same sense like the others.

    There are no Arabic versions of the Bible previous to Islam, a fact which proves irrefragably that in its primitive period Christianity had secured no footing at all among the Arabs.
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    Doesn't really matter. They are Semitic. They were Semitics before the Arabian Caliphates and they stayed Semitics after the Arabisation.

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    The difference between modern and ancient times is that the Levant has a lot Armenian and Iranic (Kurdic) DNA. There are many Armenians living in the Levant/Lebanon, but not only that. After Saladin many Kurdish knights stayed in Palestina and Lebanon.


    What many people don't know is that Palestinians have a lot Kurdic DNA left by the Kurdish knights after the Crusaders were defeated.


    Kurds in Palestine, Palestinians who are of Kurdish ancestry.

    The origins of some Palestinian Kurds can be traced to the era of conquests of Kurdish Ayyubid dynasty during the Crusades. The Ayyubid rulers settled many Kurdish tribes in Palestine in order to secure the borders of their empire. Among the major settlements with Kurdish communities in Palestine are city of Hebron (al-Khalil), Jerusalem (al-Quds) and Shechem (Nablus).

    There are also many Kurdish clans who came to Palestine at post-Ayyubid periods, especially under the Ottomans. The Kurds are the largest ethnic minority in the West Bank.

    Some claim that as much as one third of inhabitants of Hebron are of Kurdish origin, where they have had their own quarters, such as Harat al-Akrad (English: Quarter of Kurds).



    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurds_...%20West%20Bank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Odelia View Post
    Then who the fuck are modern day Phoenicians? Pakistanis?
    I mean, nobody really is. But Druze and Samaritans are the closest. Alawites too.

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    Alright guys, this question has been answered. Gonna close it

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