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    Quote Originally Posted by Alenka View Post
    Lopata. Lopatë.
    Kosa. Kosë.
    Breg. Breg.
    Prag. Prag.
    Puška. Pushkë.
    Žaba. Zhabë.
    Sića. Sica.
    Should I name some english/german borrowed words that Slavic countries use? You have to understand that there are similiarities in any languages because there is no chance that an ethnicity or nation managed to discover all the words instantly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by North Sea View Post
    ilyrian word breg or something meant sea .. in albanian is also similar .. slavic language also has something similar .. its just common IE words
    Breg is borrowed Slavic word in Albanian https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/breg

    Breg on Serbian means Hillock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by North Sea View Post
    Lol. These people dont even understand what common Indo European words are . They also claim Ilyrian sheep dog and the word 'hajde' which is possibly from turkish. Nationalism ....


    Sica comes from hallstatt ... has an indo european origin ... its possible the word knife and cutting and even sword have all a common origin in many indo european languages


    Sica was used in Balkans and Hallstatt before Serbs or any Slavs even arrived
    Hajde is actually Turkish, brought from Ottomans and everyone in ex-yugo + some other countries use it Balkans. Albanian correct synonym would be eja.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMaestro View Post
    Should I name some english/german borrowed words that Slavic countries use? You have to understand that there are similiarities in any languages because there is no chance that an ethnicity or nation managed to discover all the words instantly.
    I know, I was trolling...

    On a more serious note, those knives look familiar to me, I think I've seen them in a museum. Finds from Illyricum I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by North Sea View Post
    Lol. These people dont even understand what common Indo European words are . They also claim Ilyrian sheep dog and the word 'hajde' which is possibly from turkish. Nationalism ....


    Sica comes from hallstatt ... has an indo european origin ... its possible the word knife and cutting and even sword have all a common origin in many indo european languages


    Sica was used in Balkans and Hallstatt before Serbs or any Slavs even arrived
    And shepherd dog is not a Slavic "invention" if you call so either. You cant invent or proclaim a dog, if so it was present in Balkans before Slavic migrations, so it could be Vlachs, Illyrians, Dardanians, Hellenics or Celtics expenading.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alenka View Post
    I know, I was trolling...

    On a more serious note, those knives look familiar to me, I think I've seen them in a museum. Finds from Illyricum I guess.
    Why use that signature " Zlatokopka " are you trying to get rid of men ?

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    the word for cutting possibly is connected to this word in all indo european languages ... or the word for knife and cutting have a similar origin ... such as in Scandinavian knife means Kniv and cutting means Kutte .. they are very similar


    Its possible the word sjece has no relation to the actual word sica which rather comes from knife ... but the indo european word for cutting was possibly something similar sounding as the indo european word for knife ... in Albanian carje and prej means cut ... Albanian carje is similar to polish cecie and serbian sjece ... they have a common indo european origin for cutting same way for english cut and norwegian kutte ...


    The word Sica is rather a word for Knife .. Albanian word for knife derives from this possible or even the word for Sword ... Its also similar in other Indo European languages. Its possible the Indo European word for cutting was something similar as the word for knife and has changed over time


    The Sica actually comes from Hallstatt from Proto Ilyrians , it is possibly a word of Indo European origin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alenka View Post
    Lopata. Lopatë.
    Kosa. Kosë.
    Breg. Breg.
    Prag. Prag.
    Puška. Pushkë.
    Žaba. Zhabë.
    Sića. Sica.
    common Indo European words many of these

    Breg meant sea in Ilyrian also ,,, we also have word for sea and ship that isnt common in other languages but a lot of words obviously have a common indo european origin ... pushka is obviously a loan word.


    Sica is def not a loan word but comes from Ilyrian or proto Ilyrian,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    Seći on Serbian (ekavian dialect) means cut.

    Ijekavian is Sjeći, and ikavian is Sići.

    You can not to learn me Serbian language.
    cecie in polish means cut , carje in albanian means cut ... Cut in english ... in Russian also .. common indo eurropean words ... the norwegian word for stabbing is stikke ... also similar origin ...


    I can teach you that this sword or knife is not from Serbs but from Hallstatt proto Ilyrians and the Indo European word for knife was possibly similar to this word .. also Indo European word for cutting was similar sounding or had a similar origin.

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    Sekira/Sjekira/Sikira is Axe in Serbian https://sh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sjekira


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