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    Quote Originally Posted by Catarinense1998 View Post
    Please, can you rate my english skills? Just quote me rating my english, because I'm curious about this. You can rate my english on this mold - 4/10, 7/10, 5/10, ok?



    My answer about you ask: I have mixed feelings about it. Joo Goulart (our last president before army got the power) was not a communist as some people like to point out. In fact, He did want to nationalize some companies and make an agrarian reform, but he was not a communist. Castelo Branco (our first military president) did not want to keep the power under the army's hands for a long time; his ideia was about kick out Joo Goulart and convene a new election (he was a moderate). Well, in fact the army got to construct a lot of important constructions, infrastructure, etc; but, they made our external debt too big. Of course, they were not so corrupted as our nowadays's politicians, so a lot of people like to worship them - but I don't.
    5/10 for your English skills. I asked you about your opinion of the Brazilian junta, given how you regard Pinochet as a 'hero' (do you like Suharto too?), and in many ways the Brazilian junta was a precursor to Pinochet - even though its free-market reforms were not as radical and all-encompassing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    (do you like Suharto too?)
    Most Brazilians don't even know who this guy is. Sadly, Brazil basically ignores the existence of most Asian or African countries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    5/10 for your English skills. I asked you about your opinion of the Brazilian junta, given how you regard Pinochet as a 'hero' (do you like Suharto too?), and in many ways the Brazilian junta was a precursor to Pinochet - even though its free-market reforms were not as radical and all-encompassing.
    I don't have much knowledge about Suharto (Is it a pos dutch era's dictator?).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ouroboros View Post
    Most Brazilians don't even know who this guy is. Sadly, Brazil basically ignores the existence of most Asian or African countries.
    Well like it or not, in global terms Indonesia is much bigger and more important than Chile (even if poorer).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ouroboros View Post
    Most Brazilians don't even know who this guy is. Sadly, Brazil basically ignores the existence of most Asian or African countries.
    Our curriculum in the public school make it hard for any brazilian to learn about Asian or African countries. Usually, if someone knows anything about these countries, is because these people have personal interest on these topics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    Well like it or not, in global terms Indonesia is much bigger and more important than Chile (even if poorer).
    Chile is in the same continent as Brazil and have many cultural similarities, Indonesia is on the other side of world. Which one do you think should be more studied in Brazilian public schools?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catarinense1998 View Post
    I don't have much knowledge about Suharto (Is it a pos dutch era's dictator?).
    He ruled Indonesia between 1965-1998, following a very violent coup. Basically, he overthrew the left-leaning nationalist Sukarno, who caused panic both among Indonesia's wealthy and among the West because he was backed by the Indonesian Communist Party, which was at the time the biggest communist party in the world outside the Soviet bloc and China. Once in power, the army and death squads killed and disappeared up to a million members of the Indonesian Communist Party; meanwhile, the New Order's economic programme was to slash taxes and welfare and privatise several companies and industries. The regime became even more notorious globally when, a decade later, it invaded newly-independent East Timor in order to grab its oil, killing another million or so people in the process. Suharto finally resigned in 1998 following mass demonstrations during the Asian Economic Crisis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ouroboros View Post
    Chile is in the same continent as Brazil and have many cultural similarities, Indonesia is on the other side of world. Which one do you think should be more studied in Brazilian public schools?
    OK true. When you travelled round Asia, did you visit Indonesia btw?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    Precisely my point. Compared to Pinochet and Suharto, Peron was more fascistic but was also more left-wing (and less authoritarian).
    In my opinion Pern social-economically talking was 100 in the center.
    Probably he built the most centrist government that existed in Latinamerica.
    Center, not left.
    Pern hated Marx and that's one of the reasons why in a way I like him.

    Well I don't "hate" Marx... I really hate Gramsci and everything related to cultural marxism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Wog View Post
    In my opinion Pern social-economically talking was 100 in the center.
    Probably he built the most centrist government that existed in Latinamerica.
    Center, not left.
    Pern hated Marx and that's one of the reasons why in a way I like him.

    Well I don't "hate" Marx... I really hate Gramsci and everything related to cultural marxism.
    But Peron was also very weary of Anglo-American capitalism and wanted Argentina to escape from it - in that respect totally the opposite of people like Pinochet and Suharto.

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