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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruggery View Post
    If Brazil had 2 official languages ​​as you think the country would be?
    The second most spoken language in Brazil is german with 3.5 milion speakers, but I dont really think german could politically colonize or dominate any part of Brazil.

    Countries like France, Spain and mainly the Dutch by far had their time trying to produce a different society of whites in Brazil. The French did a totally disconected colonization to white colonials of iberian ancestry. Portuguese would probably have died in french colonized areas. The Dutch were different, their plan was to make a goverment and society composed to both the dutch settlers and the colonial elite where both portuguese and dutch could cohexist. Something like modern Transvaal or Cape City.

    So to answer your question, in a imaginary situation Brazil could have Rio de Janeiro and Maranhao as protestant and exclusive french speaking areas, but the french colonization was somewhat desorganized. French would be the only strong language and the whites would be almost only french, those states would be blacker and less white than they are, maybe even depopulated like in the case of Maranhao similar to French Guyana. The difference is that Saint Louis(modern Sao Luiz) was already big in Colonial times and Cayena never was. I imagine something like Maranhao being 13% white, 60% black and 27% black/amerindian mixes. Rio I cant imagine it at all, portugueses would for sure take Rio for them again 100-150 latter and both french and portugueses whites would speak portuguese. French and Portugueses like to reign alone, they are not inclusive peoples like the dutch and the english.

    The dutch for sure are the most probable, their colonization was extremely inclusive, tolerant, progressist, organized and they produced a friendship between the colonial iberian elite and the dutch colonial elite, generating even many marriages between both groups. On this universe we could have Ceara, Rio Grande do Norte, Paraíba and Pernambuco as bilingual states where both cultures and white groups would cohexist to policatically and economically dominate this region. I think on this universe those states would be way more black(more than even Bahia), but it also would have a similar number of whites they have like around 30% which is high to Latam standarts. Something like 33% whites divided between dutch and portugueses, 27% pardos and 40% black. It would for sure be more unequal and segregated than already is and it would be more dangerous than alrealdy is. At least Fortaleza and Recife would have way more KLM flights, with two KLM 747 and three TAP a330 or a340 arriving everyday. Dutch are an people that like segregation, so both portugueses and dutch would live in the same areas separated of non whites, pardos would have their own areas like coloureds have in Suid Afrika and blacks their onw area. The same we can apply for beaches. Only the industrial and the commercial center would be an free area. Portuguese whites would speak portuguese, dutch whites would speak a new language similar to dutch called Amerikanner, pardos would speak portuguese and blacks would speak a creole of dutch language, a creole version of Amerikanner. Both white groups could speak english or a dominant language in the country(portuguese) to understand each other. Many portuguese whites could become protestant, so the white group would protestant and catholic at the same time. Pardos would be more catholic and Blacks would more protestant like black americans are.



    Dutch and Portuguese are the answer.

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