Y dna of famous Serbs

[HistoryGeekYugoslav]

Карађорђевићи / Karađorđevići The Karađorđevići were a Serbian princely and royal dynasty, and later a Yugoslav royal dynasty. The dynasty descents from Karađorđe, the leader of the First Serbian Uprising. Their origin is still a discussion. But these are the two main: I2-CTS10228 and E-BY14151. "The theory that the Karađorđevići are of Vasojević origin is completely hollow and it has been proven that they are not Vasojevići in the male line. Confirmation of this is the test of Gurešić from Crnče near Bijelo Polje, which is I2a Din. south. For the Gurešićs, there is a strong folklore that they are related to the Karađorđevićs, and they still celebrate St. Clement, a saint when the Krađorđevićs used to celebrate until they changed and started to celebrate St. Andrew the First Called. I hope that soon we will have a test of at least some of the clans that are related to Karadjordjevic and settled in Sumadija (Guresici from Mladenovac, then Marinkovici, from Cerovac, Kuzmic from Mramorac, etc." - https://forum.poreklo.rs/index.php?topic=2299.0
I think it is necessary to test Đurkovići in Vasojevići who claim kinship with the Karađorđevići, as well as the members of the royal family themselves, in order to prove anything or at least make it clearer.

[Rethel]

And pseudoObrenovićes what are? Also I2?

[HistoryGeekYugoslav]

And pseudoObrenovićes what are? Also I2?

Obrenovići are by origin from the Montenegrin brda tribe of Bratonožići, they descent from the Progonovići by the legend. So they should be Q-L245.

[HistoryGeekYugoslav]

Генерал Емануел Цвјетићанин (1833-1919) / General Emanuel Cvijetićanin origianlly from the Bogunović tribe. J2a-M92>Z8096>S8230Baron_Emanuel_von_Cveticanin.jpg

[Jackson78]

Obrenovići are by origin from the Montenegrin brda tribe of Bratonožići, they descent from the Progonovići by the legend. So they should be Q-L245.

Wrong, they are I2-Y3120 according to the paternal relative test.

[HistoryGeekYugoslav]

Tribal Vojvoda Marko Miljanov Popović from the Kuči Tribe of Montenegro. E-BY165837 / E-V13 Marko_Miljanov.jpg

[HistoryGeekYugoslav]

Well, historically that's what historians thought, because of some of the legends.

[Jackson78]

Карађорђевићи / Karađorđevići The Karađorđevići were a Serbian princely and royal dynasty, and later a Yugoslav royal dynasty. The dynasty descents from Karađorđe, the leader of the First Serbian Uprising. Their origin is still a discussion. But these are the two main: I2-CTS10228 and E-BY14151. "The theory that the Karađorđevići are of Vasojević origin is completely hollow and it has been proven that they are not Vasojevići in the male line. Confirmation of this is the test of Gurešić from Crnče near Bijelo Polje, which is I2a Din. south. For the Gurešićs, there is a strong folklore that they are related to the Karađorđevićs, and they still celebrate St. Clement, a saint when the Krađorđevićs used to celebrate until they changed and started to celebrate St. Andrew the First Called. I hope that soon we will have a test of at least some of the clans that are related to Karadjordjevic and settled in Sumadija (Guresici from Mladenovac, then Marinkovici, from Cerovac, Kuzmic from Mramorac, etc." - https://forum.poreklo.rs/index.php?topic=2299.0
I think it is necessary to test Đurkovići in Vasojevići who claim kinship with the Karađorđevići, as well as the members of the royal family themselves, in order to prove anything or at least make it clearer.

Kuzmić family from Mramorac is tested (haplogroup I2-Y3120) but they do not match Gurešić family from Crnča.

[Rethel]

Obrenovići are by origin from the Montenegrin brda tribe of Bratonožići, they descent from the Progonovići by the legend. So they should be Q-L245.

Are you sure? I was asking about pseudo-Obrenovićes, not the real ones.

[Jackson78]

Are you sure? I was asking about pseudo-Obrenovićes, not the real ones.

What do you mean by this? "Real" Obrenovići, i.e. the Obrenović dynasty, most likely belonged to I2-Y3120 haplogroup, while their modern "descendants" are descended from Jakov Obrenović, who was by mother (but not by father) a half-brother to Miloš Obrenović. They belong to G2a-L497 haplogroup.