Y dna of famous Serbs

[MagnusDark]

Wogs with blue eyes that plot in the Baltics and Scandinavia

So? I plot further south than some woggier types and I am pasty white. Also some other users who plot further north than me are darker. I don't think complexion necessarily has anything to do with how you plot.

I meant more basal I2 specifically. By the time Proto-Indo-Europeans were developed I2 was already so far widespread that some clades are in fact indo-european. Basal I2 however, I am pretty sure no one falls in that today. So all these "Paleo-European" are just Indo Europeans who descended from Paleo Indo-Europeans. Modern I1 I think you told me all traces back to a common ancestor 4000 years ago, so older I1 most probably doesn't exist in any living person today.

[Dick]

So? I plot further south than some woggier types and I am pasty white. Also some other users who plot further north than me are darker. I don't think complexion necessarily has anything to do with how you plot.

I meant more basal I2 specifically. By the time Proto-Indo-Europeans were developed I2 was already so far widespread that some clades are in fact indo-european. Basal I2 however, I am pretty sure no one falls in that today. So all these "Paleo-European" are just Indo Europeans who descended from Paleo Indo-Europeans. Modern I1 I think you told me all traces back to a common ancestor 4000 years ago, so older I1 most probably doesn't exist in any living person today.

I was talking about the I2 hunter gatherer samples that peterski posted before. It’s funny you call them wogs when one of them plot in the arctic circle in Norway

[MagnusDark]

I was talking about the I2 hunter gatherer samples that peterski posted before. It’s funny you call them wogs when one of them plot in the arctic circle in Norway

Apparently they were like southern italians in complexion. Unless those reconstructions are off. I was more bringing that up because its not the first time people have tried to claim half of what was brought by Indo-Europeans to be paleo-european, when its simply not the case. I think the oldest R1a looked like these guys....lmao....https://www.google.com/search?q=sibe...jaQjUBL1SMi0M:

Perhaps when they mixed they formed todays Europeans. Including intro of admixture from other sources.

[Jackson78]

Radoš Bajić, I2-PH908



Miroljub Trošić, I2-PH908 (he is distant paternal cousin of Radoš)

[Pribislav]

Milan Galić R1a-Z280>Y2613 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milan_Galić





Vuk Jeremić R1a>R-Z283 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vuk_Jeremić

[MiloshN]

Zna li se Vuckova haplogrupa? J2b?

[Pribislav]

Zna li se Vuckova haplogrupa? J2b?

Verovatno je istočna R1b.

Vučko ima cincarsko poreklo po muškoj liniji.

[Pribislav]

Danilo Jakšić (1715-1771), Serbian Orthodox bishop of Eparchy of Gornji Karlovac I1-P109 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eparch...ornji_Karlovac
He was born in Srpske Moravice https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moravice,_Croatia

[Novi Pazar]

So? I plot further south than some woggier types and I am pasty white. Also some other users who plot further north than me are darker. I don't think complexion necessarily has anything to do with how you plot.

I meant more basal I2 specifically. By the time Proto-Indo-Europeans were developed I2 was already so far widespread that some clades are in fact indo-european. Basal I2 however, I am pretty sure no one falls in that today. So all these "Paleo-European" are just Indo Europeans who descended from Paleo Indo-Europeans. Modern I1 I think you told me all traces back to a common ancestor 4000 years ago, so older I1 most probably doesn't exist in any living person today.

+1 I agree, the E (African) haplogroup has European pink skin types, all it takes is one paternal ancestor 5000 years ago and bingo!

[Novi Pazar]

I think the oldest R1a looked like these guys....lmao....https://www.google.com/search?q=sibe...jaQjUBL1SMi0M:L



Anatole Klyosov mentions oldest R1a skeletal remains found in the east were fully Caucasoid. N or O are Mongoloid types.