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    Quote Originally Posted by Berenice View Post
    That's actually a quite informative thread. But let's not forget that some of the greatest writers of French literature were, according to one-drop-rule, also blacks or in relationship with Blacks: Alexandre Dumas was black (1/4 SSA), his son Alexander Dumas the son was black (1/8 black), Baudelaire had a black fiancée, Rimbaud left France to live in Africa, it's speculated that even the father of modern racialism/white supremacism, Gobineau, had partial Haitian black ancestry.

    These facts makes blacks the founders even of white supremacism, a quite ironic thing; all of this according to one-drop-rule ofc. Everytime someone is invoking the word 'Aryan' to refer to Europeans that person should remember that a possible black man, Gobineau, was the first to do it.
    You guys are fucking dumbasses. Why should a 20th century US. American concept be applied to people who lived 100 years earlier in other countries?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berenice View Post
    All of literary history is based on 'plagium', the idea of individual authorship is a very recent one. What characterizes a great writer is how he can transform the materials given to him. Almost all of the great Greek and Roman writers were heavy on plagium. Taking plots and characters from other people doesn't mean one is a bad writer, actually that was the rule for all of Western literary history. Look at Shakespeare for example, he's also accused of being a plagiarist.

    Your and petalpusher ''arguments'' are just coping based on sensibility/emotion. Anyway, Dumas is not a great author for me, so I'll not defend him anymore.
    Don't try to twist reality upside down, you are scraping ten feet below the surface around the world to find a couple of white guys with "some" black ancestry who would have achieved anything. This is your obsession, the one you are trying emotionally convince here is yourself that race a or b isn't totally useless, but reality isn't like TV shows, where whites are so embarrassed of other race's lack of achievements, they try to sugarcoat everything they have done in some sort of modesty attempt. This is worse than any form of racism if you ask me.

    Many big names in literature had people writing their books, Dumas is notorious for it as he took it to the next level, regardless of his ancestry because this is just a well documented fact and admitted even by himself. Corneille is strongly suspected to have written some of Moliere's pieces, even if the evidences are a lot more scarce, this is still an ongoing debate. They were both white and great standalone authors anyway so nobody would think it's a race bias.


    Your other points are just as ridiculous, like if moving to Africa makes you ethnically black now?
    Last edited by Petalpusher; 06-25-2019 at 11:46 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jana View Post
    Are they black for you ? Their skin is
    I launched a genuine question some time ago...
    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...and-that-stuff

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    He was not black. How can someone be considered black being only 1/8 african? At least, he was a mixed one. African shits love to steal mixed people's legacy and history and turn them into their heroes, because they don't have none. Mixed one, that's it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petalpusher View Post
    It's much worse than that, he had up to 90 "nčgres" at some point, people who were writing his books, he was just signing them and it's pretty well known here. The real achievement was his ability to build that large mafia to release that many books as it wouldn't even have been possible for a single person to do it. He got to trials for plagiarism several times as even his negres would eventually be running out of ideas or he wanted to speed up things even more, and reviewers were talking about it back then already. All the details are here by Denis Boissier (Literature historian) :

    http://denisboissier.net/Denis_Boiss...agogie%22.html
    http://salon-litteraire.linternaute....rchez-le-negre

    Dumas himself was acknowledging it when facing plagiat: "L’homme de génie ne vole pas, il conquiert."

    "A genius doesn't steal, he conquers"


    Hell there's even a movie about it
    http://www.allocine.fr/film/fichefil...lm=136392.html
    Incroyable histoire de négre, tout cela. Pas surpris. Je garde quand męme les livres de ce météque... De toute façon, ils n'ont pas été écrit par lui.

    Dumas ne faisait-t-il pas de męme ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by renaissance12 View Post
    How many of them were blonde ? Dark or medium blonde doesn't matter..
    Doesn't it...? Says who? If it doesn't matter then you exclude the vast majority of the N. European population. Even in Scandinavia, 'true' blondes are a small minority among adults, so it would not be surprising if you didn't find many geniuses among them: because they are a small group. In any case, I don't see any evidence that intelligence is related to degree of blondness, or to hair color in general. I cannot completely exclude it of course. This study, for instance, would suggest that blond and brown haired people are smarter than red and black haired one, with blond women the smartest in the White female group (quote: The distribution of IQ shown in table 2 reveals blondes have the least percentage of low IQ or dumb women and blondes are most likely to appear in the exceptionally high intelligence or genius category.):
    http://www.accessecon.com/Pubs/EB/20...V36-I1-P42.pdf
    Of course, correlation doesn't mean causation and a single study doesn't say much. More interesting perhaps would be to know why you are trying to bash 'Nordics' (in your rather naive view which identifies them with very blond people, when most adult Scandinavians or Balts have 'potato' or 'mousy' hair color). True, there are some Nordicists who look down on Southern Europeans and that's bad IMO, but I don't see them here on TAF, not openly at least. So what's your point? Btw, as far as I know the term 'swarthy' applies to skin, not to hair or eye color: ie a person with olive/brunet skin tone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Pill View Post
    Doesn't it...? Says who? If it doesn't matter then you exclude the vast majority of the N. European population. Even in Scandinavia, 'true' blondes are a small minority among adults, so it would not be surprising if you didn't find many geniuses among them: because they are a small group. In any case, I don't see any evidence that intelligence is related to degree of blondness, or to hair color in general. I cannot completely exclude it of course. This study, for instance, would suggest that blond and brown haired people are smarter than red and black haired one, with blond women the smartest in the White female group (quote: The distribution of IQ shown in table 2 reveals blondes have the least percentage of low IQ or dumb women and blondes are most likely to appear in the exceptionally high intelligence or genius category.):
    http://www.accessecon.com/Pubs/EB/20...V36-I1-P42.pdf
    Of course, correlation doesn't mean causation and a single study doesn't say much. More interesting perhaps would be to know why you are trying to bash 'Nordics' (in your rather naive view which identifies them with very blond people, when most adult Scandinavians or Balts have 'potato' or 'mousy' hair color). True, there are some Nordicists who look down on Southern Europeans and that's bad IMO, but I don't see them here on TAF, not openly at least. So what's your point? Btw, as far as I know the term 'swarthy' applies to skin, not to hair or eye color: ie a person with olive/brunet skin tone.
    I'm not trying to bash 'Nordids' ( i don't care about nordicist ) ... but it is a fact that almost every great European genius was not blonde ( neither medium blonde nor dark blonde ) .. no matter if he was genetically nordids or not... ( dark hair people can be found in Scandinavia also )

    Blonde people in Europe are 15% of popolation..... but only 1% of the great Genius could be considered "blonde"...


    What considerations arise from this obvious fact..

    Please don't post pics of some blonde engineer born in USA...
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    He doesn't look like a mulatto. Looks mostly White.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berenice View Post
    That's actually a quite informative thread. But let's not forget that some of the greatest writers of French literature were, according to one-drop-rule, also blacks or in relationship with Blacks: Alexandre Dumas was black (1/4 SSA), his son Alexander Dumas the son was black (1/8 black), Baudelaire had a black fiancée, Rimbaud left France to live in Africa, it's speculated that even the father of modern racialism/white supremacism, Gobineau, had partial Haitian black ancestry.

    These facts makes blacks the founders even of white supremacism, a quite ironic thing; all of this according to one-drop-rule ofc. Everytime someone is invoking the word 'Aryan' to refer to Europeans that person should remember that a possible black man, Gobineau, was the first to do it.
    Forget the "one-drop rule".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jana View Post
    It looks like Mongoloids are highest IQ and physically most inferior while Blacks are the exact opossite.

    Whites are good balance in between and maybe that is secret to their sucess (just speculating).
    Blacks are not physically superior.

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