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    Quote Originally Posted by Damio de Gis View Post
    I thought this was a matter of you not interpreting the data correctly, but no it's you denying what is written in the study and making up data on your own even after being shown sreenshots of the study itself. I didn't take you for someone that invents data. I kept replying because i didn't know, but now i do. Also now i can't help but wonder what other liberties and assumptions you made while doing your map, if this is how you treat data.

    The Hoyos Sainz study has a table for blue eyes and a table for mixed eyes ("several colorations derived from blue and green that are mixed with brown which prevents blue from apprear in a clean way"), there is nothing else other than dark eyes in the study. There is no mention of gray eyes in the study, much less a frequency for it. I have said this multiple times now, accompanied with screenshots and your reply has been "it has grey eyes" also repeatedly.

    I have no idea how a category wich includes blueish mixed with brown and greenish mixed with brown magically turns into grey.





    They do if you invent data so that the numbers match, which is what you did.

    Hoyos Sainz has the following numbers (averaged):

    Blue - 10,6%
    Mixed("several colorations derived from blue and green that are mixed with brown which prevents blue from apprear in a clean way") - 7,3%

    If you add blue and this mixed category it adds up to 17,9%

    Sanchez Fernandez has the following numbers (averaged) for categories we only have their names and not what they contain (blue, brown and black):

    Blue - 17,5%
    Then there's numbers for brown and black.

    So for them to match you had to turn mixed eyes in Hoyos Sanz into grey, and you turned "blue" in Sanchez Fernandez into "blue and grey" as well, and you had no problem doing it. So by inventing a little bit you now have similar blue and grey numbers on both studies, despite what is written on these studies.

    Keep up the good work.
    Please stop with your nonsense. The 16-17% figure for Spain includes grey eyes but excludes light mixed eyes. No way 17% of Spaniards have blue eyes and no way only 17% of Spaniards have light plus light mixed eyes. Even sofiagris confirmed this with his new study. The numbers simply do not make sense otherwise. I don't care if the study says just "blue". I can't tell you how many times I've come across studies that said blue but included grey eyes. This is semantics. Different people have different definitions of blue and grey.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sofiagris View Post
    No doubt 17% blue or blue-green-grey for spain https://andaluciaorienta.net/de-que-...tengo-los-ojos

    16.29% of Spaniards have blue-gray eyes.
    55.2% have them hazelnut green.
    The remaining 28.5% have them dark brown.
    Stop lying. They dont say dark brown but just brown.
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    Brazilian friend, you should know that the haplogroup of the chromosome Y and more common in Iberia, the Indo-European R1b in Spain reaches 69% while in Portugal it only reaches 56%, Portugal is 13% less Indo-European, in addition the North African haplogroup E adds up in Portugal 14% compared to 7% in Spain, that is, Portugal is 7% more North African.
    I think it's clear why Portugal is darker than Spain

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo View Post
    Stop lying. They dont say dark brown but just brown.
    No way only 28% of Spaniards have brown eyes. The figure is probably around 50%. If you add dark mixed it's around 65%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supercomputer View Post
    No way only 28% of Spaniards have brown eyes. The figure is probably around 50%. If you add dark mixed it's around 65%.
    Tell that to these who made the "study". I just corrected the malicious translation of that sudaca.

    Also, it depends what you understand for brown. Most of Spaniards dont have pure brown eyes but (as that "study" claims) hazelnut.

    Here a very veeery near example


    In any case, this is another proof "studies" are stupid. They maybe should group brown with hazelnut.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo View Post
    Tell that to these who made the "study". I just corrected the malicious translation of that sudaca.

    Also, it depends what you understand for brown. Most of Spaniards dont have pure brown eyes but (as that "study" claims) hazelnut.

    Here a very veeery near example


    In any case, this is another proof "studies" are stupid. They maybe should group brown with hazelnut.
    this eyes are 75% brown eyes with little yellow specks , as much as you illuminate the eyes with light to look like hazel in no way can they be considered hazel eyes are brown simply. How stupid to illuminate the eyes in the sun or with a flashlight to make them appear hazelnut in the photo, which is half green, half brown-yellow. In France, no one would consider those eyes as hazelnut, perhaps the Spanish do, but from a European point of view they are dark eyes brown
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    Quote Originally Posted by sofiagris View Post
    this eyes are 75% brown eyes with little yellow specks , as much as you illuminate the eyes with light to look like hazel in no way can they be considered hazel eyes are brown simply. How stupid to illuminate the eyes in the sun or with a flashlight to make them appear hazelnut in the photo, which is half green, half brown-yellow. In France, no one would consider those eyes as hazelnut, perhaps the Spanish do, but from a European point of view they are dark eyes brown
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo View Post
    Tell that to these who made the "study". I just corrected the malicious translation of that sudaca.

    Also, it depends what you understand for brown. Most of Spaniards dont have pure brown eyes but (as that "study" claims) hazelnut.

    Here a very veeery near example


    In any case, this is another proof "studies" are stupid. They maybe should group brown with hazelnut.
    Those are dark mixed eyes. I personally divide eyes the following way:

    blue
    grey
    light mixed
    evenly mixed
    dark mixed
    pure brown

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    Light ; Blue and blue mixed with grey and green
    Light-mixed; Light green and green-grey
    Mixed;50% Brown-yellow specks around the pupil, 50% green out
    Dark-mixed; Brown-yellow around the pupil,yellow-green out
    Dark; Brown with yellow specks out and brown around the pupil , like that sample, in europe dark eyes have this tipical yellow specks out (lipochrome) , pure brown eyes without yellow specks it is not common in europe , perhaps for asian or african people...The trick of illuminating the eyes with a flash to highlight the yellow speckst out is very typical of peoples with very dark pigmentation to appear more European, as in the case of Cristiano Viejo
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    Quote Originally Posted by sofiagris View Post
    Light-mixed; Light green and green-grey
    No, light mixed eyes are eyes that are mostly light (blue or grey/green), but with small dark mixture.

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