Vlachs are the same people as Albanians

[North Sea]

Vlachs/Aromanians etc are the same people as Albanians or share a common origin and prior to Roman occupation we spoke a similar language. Only Vlachs got more Romanised and eventually Slavicised / or they absorbed a lot of Slavs. Proto Romanians were also related people.

There are genetic and linguistic studies that show the relationship between us. I also saw now that some Vlachs also tested for the haplogroup J2b2 L283 . Only they did not test positive for PH1751 which is a common Albanian subclade, this means that the reationship between some of us is more ancient.

[North Sea]

Vlachs tested positive for PH2967 which is also common in Albos

[GreentheViper]

I am Vlach

[North Sea]

I am Vlach

I would like to see more DNA studies on Vlachs . Atleast the ones that have less Slavic influence. They seem to share some markers with Albos. Some of this could very well be ancient.


Romanised people that lived in Bosnia , Croatia etc would of been seperated by us for thousands of years so they should belong to different clades but still a common origin I suppose. The ones that live closest to Albanian inhabited lands woild be the closest to us.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Similar but not the same. Vlachs are mostly J2a like Greeks and not J2b like Albos iirc. They got stronger Slav input also. What they share is lot of eastern R1b and some E-V13, I guess.

[North Sea]

Similar but not the same. Vlachs are mostly J2a like Greeks and not J2b like Albos iirc. They got stronger Slav input also. What they share is lot of eastern R1b and some E-V13, I guess.

They also share J2b2 L283 from a study I saw , an old study, mentioned by an Albanian member Trojet aho runs a DNA project, though its in Albanian.

http://www.foleja.net/index.php?PHPS...06.msg6497#new

They could very well be bottleneck effects though


Proto Vlachs and Proto Albanians shared a common origin we can agree on.

[Pribislav]

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[Pribislav]

Similar but not the same. Vlachs are mostly J2a like Greeks and not J2b like Albos iirc. They got stronger Slav input also. What they share is lot of eastern R1b and some E-V13, I guess.

Wrong.
Vlachs have more J2b-M241 than J2a.

Y dna of Aromanians (sample 207)

R1b - 21.25% (eastern 17.87%, western 3.38%)
J2b-M241 - 14.98%
I2-YP196 - 14.98%
E-V13 - 14.98%
R1a - 10.14%
J2a - 9.18%
I1 - 3.38%
I2-M223 - 2.42%
G1 - 1.93%
G2a - 1.45%
N1c - 0.97%
T - 0.97%
C-V20 - 0.97%
E-V22 - 0.97%
E-M81 - 0.48%
J1 - 0.48%
J2b - M205 - 0.48%

[oszkar07]

Vlachs/Aromanians etc are the same people as Albanians or share a common origin and prior to Roman occupation we spoke a similar language. Only Vlachs got more Romanised and eventually Slavicised / or they absorbed a lot of Slavs. Proto Romanians were also related people.

There are genetic and linguistic studies that show the relationship between us. I also saw now that some Vlachs also tested for the haplogroup J2b2 L283 . Only they did not test positive for PH1751 which is a common Albanian subclade, this means that the reationship between some of us is more ancient.

I wouldnt be suprised, this idea has been around for a while, and there are linguistic connections also.

[Aspar]

It seems that many y-dna lineages Vlachs share with Macedonians and Bulgarians.
Particularly subclades under E-V13 like Z17264, Y16729 and others.
Under J2a, like J2-L70.
R1b, Eastern branches and I suspect that their I2a Dinaric is from the Eastern Balkan branch, Z17855.
Overall, the Vlachs show more kinship with Macedonians and Bulgarians than with Greeks and Albanians.