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    Quote Originally Posted by Vojnik View Post
    They are definitely not Bulgars. I can agree with that.
    It means 50% of Macedonia and 30% of B'lgarska are Sopi (Serbs)!

    Just watched moje ime vid, and it just confirmed what l already knew. Why don't we mention Serbian toponymns inside B'lgarska like Srpsko Samokov (renamed Samokov), Srpsko Selo, Srbenica etc....in the heartland of Shopi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    I / Serbian Ja, Shop Ja, Bulgarian Az

    Him / Serbian On, Shop On, Bulgarian Toi

    It's alittle more than this, remove go/gi for gu/ga or the YAT like Mlyako for Mleko etc.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    I / Serbian Ja, Shop Ja, Bulgarian Az

    Him / Serbian On, Shop On, Bulgarian Toi
    The Shop speech is twice more Bulgarian than it is Serbian.

    It would be interesting to see an actual ethnic census of Serbia after the Balkan wars. The number of the Balkan Slavs who speak a language without cases would be incredibly high. If we also add the Albanians, then half of post-Balkan war Serbia would have been non-Serbian.



    You can see in a short Serbian video how the dialect of the Shops is not even transitional, it is completely Bulgarian.



    The grannies haven't heard of dative, they use the Bulgarian "na". I also heard the use of "te/ta". They don't say the Serbian "bio", but the Bulgarian "bil".

    Or the pronouns - aze, ti, toj, nie vie, tiya. Or they don't say "da buda", but the Bulgarian "да бъда".

    Not going to comment the vocabulary they use. It is not only identical to Western Bulgarian, but also identical to the speeches near the Black sea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archduke View Post
    The Shop speech is twice more Bulgarian than it is Serbian.

    It would be interesting to see an actual ethnic census of Serbia after the Balkan wars. The number of the Balkan Slavs who speak a language without cases would be incredibly high. If we also add the Albanians, then half of post-Balkan war Serbia would have been non-Serbian.



    You can see in a short Serbian video how the dialect of the Shops is not even transitional, it is completely Bulgarian.



    The grannies haven't heard of dative, they use the Bulgarian "na". I also heard the use of "te/ta". They don't say the Serbian "bio", but the Bulgarian "bil".

    Or the pronouns - aze, ti, toj, nie vie, tiya. Or they don't say "da buda", but the Bulgarian "да бъда".

    Not going to comment the vocabulary they use. It is not only identical to Western Bulgarian, but also identical to the speeches near the Black sea.
    Shopi speech is ekavian, not yakavian as Bulgarian.

    I would like to you go in Pirot and tell the local that they are Bulgarians alike...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    Shopi speech is ekavian, not yakavian as Bulgarian.

    I would like to you go in Pirot and tell the local that they are Bulgarians alike...
    It doesn't matter. The people from Novi Izvor and Dublje clearly speak an analytical Slavic language and Bulgarian (plus Macedonian) is the only such language. There are not traces of Serbian case system within the borders of Bulgaria, while in Serbia even today we see how there are analytical Slavic speakers.

    I'd rather go to Bosilegrad or Caribrod, where the real Shopi live, not the totally Serbianized town Pirot which is full of Montenegrins and god knows what else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archduke View Post
    It doesn't matter. The people from Novi Izvor and Dublje clearly speak an analytical Slavic language and Bulgarian (plus Macedonian) is the only such language. There are not traces of Serbian case system within the borders of Bulgaria, while in Serbia even today we see how there are analytical Slavic speakers.

    I'd rather go to Bosilegrad or Caribrod, where the real Shopi live, not the totally Serbianized town Pirot which is full of Montenegrins and god knows what else.
    This is what one Shop Serb from Dimitrovgrad/Caribrod said to pro-Bulgarian Shop girl on Shop (Torlakian) dialect.

    - Apsolutno je dokazano, trebe da se baviš sas godine na tuja tema. Davali su mi bugarsći pasoš, za tri d'na i meni i na moju porodicu, meni to ne trebe ja sam Šop-Srbin! Neka se izjašnjava koj ko saka, ali nemoj da nekoj govori u moje ime!
    Još u prvijat komentat razbra da imaš bugarsći pasoš, a nesi me ni razbraka kvo sam stel da ti kažem, teka da neje ni bitno, neka ostane tova pisanje da druđi razberu. Znamo koj fanatično pravi gužvu po Srbiju za vikend, sluša srpsku muziku, a neretko i ka se napiju okaju po grad B'lgarija na tri moreta. Izgleda če budu tri govneta. Seca si đi maticata. U Caribrod kažemo Ja, a u Dragoman 15 km od nas i celu Bugarsku kažu Az. Nadam se da si samo neobaveštena, a ne i zlonamerna. Ako je tova drugoto, zaobikoli Caribrod u široći krug.

    I understand 95% of this, and few words which don't understant I recognize from context.
    Last edited by Pribislav; 04-29-2019 at 12:02 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archduke View Post
    The Shop speech is twice more Bulgarian than it is Serbian.

    It would be interesting to see an actual ethnic census of Serbia after the Balkan wars. The number of the Balkan Slavs who speak a language without cases would be incredibly high. If we also add the Albanians, then half of post-Balkan war Serbia would have been non-Serbian.



    You can see in a short Serbian video how the dialect of the Shops is not even transitional, it is completely Bulgarian.



    The grannies haven't heard of dative, they use the Bulgarian "na". I also heard the use of "te/ta". They don't say the Serbian "bio", but the Bulgarian "bil".

    Or the pronouns - aze, ti, toj, nie vie, tiya. Or they don't say "da buda", but the Bulgarian "да бъда".

    Not going to comment the vocabulary they use. It is not only identical to Western Bulgarian, but also identical to the speeches near the Black sea.

    Kako sto rece starata baba: "niti srpsko, niti bugarsko. mesano".

    Bulgars and Serbs. Leave them alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archduke View Post

    You can see in a short Serbian video how the dialect of the Shops is not even transitional, it is completely Bulgarian.



    The grannies haven't heard of dative, they use the Bulgarian "na". I also heard the use of "te/ta". They don't say the Serbian "bio", but the Bulgarian "bil".

    Or the pronouns - aze, ti, toj, nie vie, tiya. Or they don't say "da buda", but the Bulgarian "да бъда".

    Not going to comment the vocabulary they use. It is not only identical to Western Bulgarian, but also identical to the speeches near the Black sea.
    Grannies are so fun

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