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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayetooey View Post
    There's no old I2a found in Russia and I2a in Russia is uncommon. Oldest I2a is from 900 AD Poland which isn't old, and the I2a they found isn't a direct ancestor of typical south slavic I-PH908 it was a separate branch. We have no actual ancient samples like we do with other Y dna so it's all guess work at the moment.
    Is there an up-to-date list of ancient samples?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ixulescu View Post
    Is there an up-to-date list of ancient samples?
    I would ask Peterski he seems to have access to a lot of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ixulescu View Post
    It happens, but generally good quality samples are found in plains.
    What's bad about this is that until Medieval times plains in Eastern Europe were very sparsely populated.
    Lack of money and interest of states about their history also plays a part. We got nothing coming from BiH for example, not a single fucking sample.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayetooey View Post
    This is true. But what's shocking is we have NO ancient samples of I2a1b; oldest sample is from 900 AD in southern Poland which is post middle age migrations and means nothing. No samples found anywhere from ancient times; very strange.
    Do you really expect that someone in Dalmatia, Bosnia, Serbia will invest millions in searching for samples.

    People here live of 300 EURO paychecks and those R1b Europeans surely have no intentions to help us finding anything ancient here trust me.

    That being said.....

    We have been mixed with R1a people who came here in 6-10 century A.D.

    WHY?

    Because ALL I2 haplogroup clades from Western Europe have 35-40% Western Mediterranean <-- Early Romans

    While we have half of that.

    Also R1a was stronger here than it is today, I2a1b exploded but continued carrying R1a autosomal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    You also came from Italy, it's just that your hillbilly ancestors enjoyed creating snowmans in Scandinavia and remained there.

    now i make snowmen in Canada

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić View Post
    Lack of money and interest of states about their history also plays a part. We got nothing coming from BiH for example, not a single fucking sample.
    What about Croatia? Robocop mentioned Illyrian samples were found?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    Do you really expect that someone in Dalmatia, Bosnia, Serbia will invest millions in searching for samples.
    There are several ancient samples from Dalmatia and decent amount of archeological sites. Don't put southern Croatia in same sentence with your shithole.
    Samples from Serbia are actually plenty and more are coming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dick View Post
    What about Croatia? Robocop mentioned Illyrian samples were found?
    Near Knin; I asked him about that he said it's fallen through or something.

    They were probably tested I2a so the R1b lobby burnt the evidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dick View Post
    now i make snowmen in Canada
    no wonder Canadians are dicks.

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    Got a word new paper is coming out about Kurgan burials and several sites in Vojvodina were tested. It's only region in ex-Yu with Kurgan burials because it was basically part of wider steppe settlement.
    This obsession with PIEs is bit annoying though, you got tousands of Bronze Age samples from Siberia to Spain analysied while much more interesting early medieval samples are seriously lacking in this region.

    Or Roman era samples.

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