In France, how easy would it be to get by with Arabic?

[Dandelion]

Depends how you define 'nationalist'. By this do you mean (1) racist and xenophobic or (2) proud of their language and culture? Because the two are NOT the same thing.

Very narrow way of putting 'nationalism'. It's just a country with a strong state nationalist tradition. Not good for minorities because it's very centralist. French also seem to have the idea that everyone would love to be like them or something.

[Tooting Carmen]

Very narrow way of putting 'nationalism'.

Well in this case how are you defining it then?

[Dandelion]

Well in this case how are you defining it then?

Well, it's too abstract, and I edited my post.

In Belgium you can see this as well. They don't need a nationalist party for protectionism for their community, because every party is like that. In Flanders a nationalist party got popular, making politics way too narrow (single issue voting, relative lack of true politics). Then again, Francophone Belgians lack a proper right wing party. Their options are also very limited. Belgium, not a country with communities who love debate. Perhaps not the best of examples.

[Phenix]

So do you think that Spanish has a much greater chance of survival in the USA than Arabic does in France then?

Here you have it.

I'll answer for him : YES. Younger generations/second and more especially third generations sometimes don't even speak dialectal Arabic, this is not something rare

Which kills off two stones with one bird: (1) The idea that the USA is an exceptionally patriotic and assimilationist country and (2) The notion that Latin Americans integrate or even assimilate more easily overseas than North Africans (or other MENAs) do.

Indeed, it does.

[Haider]

Anyway, just as in many American cities every bank, post office, shop and restaurant usually has at least one person available who can speak Spanish, would that be the same in French cities with Arabic?

That'd be completely unnecessary lol and not a good comparison. French is the language of education in the Maghreb. Maghrebis are already proficient in French before immigrating to France, while most Latinos coming to the US (especially the ones from Central America) speak zero English.

[Haider]

Maghrebis go to France literally due to the convenience of ALREADY speaking French, being a former French colony and all. While first generation Latinos simply don't bother to learn English, because well they don't have to, like you said anywhere you go there's someone who speaks Spanish.

[Tooting Carmen]

Maghrebis go to France literally due to the convenience of ALREADY speaking French, being a former French colony and all. While first generation Latinos simply don't bother to learn English, because well they don't have to, like you said anywhere you go there's someone who speaks Spanish.

Although there is evidence the younger generations may be losing it there too.

[Hamilcar]

Not common imo : between expat students or an old mother on the phone but that's it