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Thread: Gallo-Scythians (Basternae) from Ukraine (Ancestors of Serbs?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voskos View Post
    slavic admixture ? what do you think?


    She actually looks Greek. Don’t really see Slavic in this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    Планую свою вiдпустку влітку в Загорје! Ти хочеш мене побачити?
    Hrvoje dislake chyrillic, it seems even Ukrainian one regardless he claim White Croatian origin of Ukrainians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    Gallo-Scythians aka. Celtic Ukraine (Western Ukraine)


    ’…to the Maeotic Lake on the east, where it bordered on Pontic Scythia, and that from that point on Gauls and Scythians were mingled’’.

    (Plutarch, Mar. 11:4-5)


    From the beginning of the 3rdc. BC the territory of today’s Ukraine, previously defined by the Scythians of the North Pontic steppes and Hellenistic influences from the Black Sea zone, was supplemented by the Celtic culture from the west. The influence of the latter can be roughly divided into 2 separate spheres:

    the area of today’s Western Ukraine, where comprehensive evidence of Celtic migration/settlement is to be observed, and the central/eastern part where LaTêne (note: I2a1b Dinaric) material testifies to the presence of small Celtic groups and the development of a Celto-Scythian (/Bastarnae) population, well attested to in ancient historical sources.

    FULL ARTICLE WITH DEPICTIONS https://www.academia.edu/4835555/Gallo-Scythians

    I believe that these are the ancestors of modern day Serbs.
    Great thread, Boss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    omg THIS IS IT!

    Under the Emperor Probus (276-282) 100,000 of the Celto-Scythian Bastarnae were settled in Thrace
    (Historia Augusta Probus 18), and shortly afterwards Emperor Diocletian (284-305) carried out another ‘massive’ transfer of the Bastarnae population to the south of the Danube (Eutropius IX.25; see ‘Ethnic Engineering’)

    According to MyTrueAncestry majority of tested of Serbs are either Gallo-Scythians, Gauls, Scythians+Romans
    Maybe tall height has something to do with I2 after all


    Procopius of Caesarea (born in ca. 490 died in 565), "De Bello Gothico":

    "(...)Nay further, the Slavs do not differ at all from one another in appearance. For they are all exceptionally tall and stalwart men, while their bodies and hair are neither very fair or blond, nor indeed do they incline entirely to the dark type (...)"

    Theofylaktos Simokattes, "Oikumenike Historia" (written in years 585 - 641), describing events from 595:

    "(...) The Emperor was with great curiosity listening to stories about this tribe, he has welcomed these newcomers from the land of Slavs, and after being amazed by their height and mighty stature, he sent these men to Heraclea. (...)"

    Theophanes the Confessor (describing the same event from 595):

    "(...) The Emperor was admiring their beauty and their stalwart stature. (...)"
    # Population Percent
    1 W_Eurasian 98.44
    2 SSA 1.56

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dick View Post
    Maybe tall height has something to do with I2 after all


    Procopius of Caesarea (born in ca. 490 died in 565), "De Bello Gothico":

    "(...)Nay further, the Slavs do not differ at all from one another in appearance. For they are all exceptionally tall and stalwart men, while their bodies and hair are neither very fair or blond, nor indeed do they incline entirely to the dark type (...)"

    Theofylaktos Simokattes, "Oikumenike Historia" (written in years 585 - 641), describing events from 595:

    "(...) The Emperor was with great curiosity listening to stories about this tribe, he has welcomed these newcomers from the land of Slavs, and after being amazed by their height and mighty stature, he sent these men to Heraclea. (...)"

    Theophanes the Confessor (describing the same event from 595):

    "(...) The Emperor was admiring their beauty and their stalwart stature. (...)"
    Herodianus writes that "Pannonians are tall and strong always ready for a fight and to face danger but slow witted" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illyrians
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    Herodianus writes that "Pannonians are tall and strong always ready for a fight and to face danger but slow witted" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illyrians
    Sounds like Serbs to me. Seems legit.
    ILLYRIAN,41.2
    CENTRAL-EUROPEAN-PONTIC,21.8
    BALTIC,15
    PONTIC-BALTIC,10.4
    PONTIC,5.6
    IBERIAN,5.4
    LEVANTINE,0.6

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    Herodianus writes that "Pannonians are tall and strong always ready for a fight and to face danger but slow witted" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illyrians
    Everyone was slow witted to the Romans
    # Population Percent
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dick View Post
    Everyone was slow witted to the Romans
    That's true, they had a luck to learn many things from Ancient Egypt, Assyria etc.. that made them superior to Celtic and Germanic peoples of Europe.
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    Iliri su malo pleme koje je živelo oko skadra, ostala plemena sebe nikada nisu nazivala tim imenom( Dalmati,Liburni, Tračani itd)..Svi su prozvani Ilirima zato što su potonji bili najbliži romejima i onda su oni sva plemena nazvali Ilirima.
    Dalmati su Srbi, gotovo Ista genetika u Srcu Srbije( oblast stari Vlah i okolina) i Dalmaciji, prevashodno zagori, protom isti običaji, takođe jedan od najrelevantnijih izvora tzv franački anali navode da 892( čini mi se) Srbi drže najveći deo Dalmacije.Imamo među slovenskim savezom Srba u istočnoj nemačkoj i češkoj plemena Glamoče, i varijaciju imena Dalmata. Liburni su svakako bliži Hrvatima.
    Panonsko dalmatska veza je ono što čini Srbe( i današnje Bošnjake).


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    Quote Originally Posted by HungryLion View Post
    Iliri su malo pleme koje je živelo oko skadra, ostala plemena sebe nikada nisu nazivala tim imenom( Dalmati,Liburni, Tračani itd)..Svi su prozvani Ilirima zato što su potonji bili najbliži romejima i onda su oni sva plemena nazvali Ilirima.
    Dalmati su Srbi, gotovo Ista genetika u Srcu Srbije( oblast stari Vlah i okolina) i Dalmaciji, prevashodno zagori, protom isti običaji, takođe jedan od najrelevantnijih izvora tzv franački anali navode da 892( čini mi se) Srbi drže najveći deo Dalmacije.Imamo među slovenskim savezom Srba u istočnoj nemačkoj i češkoj plemena Glamoče, i varijaciju imena Dalmata. Liburni su svakako bliži Hrvatima.
    Panonsko dalmatska veza je ono što čini Srbe( i današnje Bošnjake).
    Ne seri priglupi opančaru. Nemate veze sa Delmatima ni Zagorom imbecilu, to je srce povijesne Hrvatske i ti ljudi nemaju veze sa cigano-vlasima iz starog Vlaha. Ti si mongrel doduše koji također sa pravim srbima nema veze. Ostavi se hrvatske i traži pretke na Kosovu i Raškoj, to je skroz drugi narod i preci su vam Tračani i Srbo-Bugari.

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