Gallo-Scythians (Basternae) from Ukraine (Ancestors of Serbs?)

[Bosniensis]

Yes, Sinan there is a theory that I2a1b2a1 came from slavized Bastarnae https://forum.poreklo.rs/index.php?topic=166.0

Bastarnae were not Scythians, but Germanic or Celto-Germanic tribe.

Celto-Slavic not Germanic

[Ayetooey]

Bastarnae were originally Celts and described as such, some theorise they were partially Germanised later on, before becoming slavicised. But they were originally Celtic people.

[Pribislav]

Celto-Slavic not Germanic

Term bastardisation came from Bastarnae.

According to ancient authors Bastarnes mixed with Slavs and from that mix were created inferior people than pure Bastarnae. According to authors Bastarnae were superior race towards the Slavs. This sounds like nazi theory about superior Germanics and unferior Slavs.

[Ayetooey]

Yes, Sinan there is a theory that I2a1b2a1 came from slavized Bastarnae https://forum.poreklo.rs/index.php?topic=166.0

Bastarnae were not Scythians, but Germanic or Celto-Germanic tribe.

I think the Bastarnae theory is very plausible, and I understand its the dna projects belief also. The demise of the Bastarnae correlates with the slavic ethnogenesis and of the TMRCA of PH908. They also live within the same region.

[Ford]

Yes, Sinan there is a theory that I2a1b2a1 came from slavized Bastarnae https://forum.poreklo.rs/index.php?topic=166.0

Bastarnae were not Scythians, but Germanic or Celto-Germanic tribe.

This could also explain my haplogroup, which may have arrived with those people. The haplogroup tracker Dick posted shows my clade in eastern Poland and there are no southern Europeans with it on the U152 project, only Germans, Poles, Swedes, Norwegians, French and Irish/Americans.

Correction: I meant western Poland.

[Ayetooey]

This could also explain my haplogroup, which may have arrived with those people. The haplogroup tracker Dick posted shows my clade in eastern Poland and there are no southern Europeans with it on the U152 project, only Germans, Poles, Swedes, Norwegians, French and Irish/Americans.

It's possible. The Bastarnae lived in the Carpathian mountains; in the S.E. Poland and SW Ukraine regions. And disappeared 200-300AD.

[Pribislav]

It's possible. The Bastarnae lived in the Carpathian mountains; in the S.E. Poland and SW Ukraine regions. And disappeared 200-300AD.

They disappeared due to slavization by R1a.

[Ayetooey]

They disappeared due to slavization by R1a.

Yes; this correlates with the TMCRA of PH908 which is 1800 years old, where it received a massive expansion. I believe ph908 and the ancestor clade of it was likely from these Basternae; the slavicisation of them would of resulted in a rapid population boost. I am not sure about other I2a clades.

[Voskos]

I once had the honor to meet a galloscythian bloke from ukraine.

[War Chef]

Diocletian (2nd-4th century A.D. ) brought Hundreds of thousands Gallo-Scythians south of Danube.

It doesn't specify if they were brought to Moesia inferior (Bulgaria) or Moesia superior (Serbia). "Thrace" seems to suggest Bulgaria.