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    Quote Originally Posted by Erronkari View Post
    Si, mi estimado, yo lo sé...
    Y lo que es más extraño es que la Iglesia Católica es la más atacada por esos grupos cuándo bien has dicho, no es la más constante en el sentido de la Fé en la actualidad.
    Lo que pasa es que mientras siga siendo la más numerosa, sufrirá también el mayor blanco de ataques.
    Pero en el caso del Papa, siento que a veces comete un error garrafal.
    Es verdad que Jesús vino para que todos nosotros seamos salvos y que Dios perdona a todos, por ello "la Iglesia está obligada a perdonar a todos" por sus pecados.
    Pero yo siento que esta versión modernizada de la Iglesia falla a la hora de tratar de lograr el arrepentimiento de parte de los que han pecado.
    Por ejemplo, ahora la constante es perdonar incluso a quiénes han sido terroristas en décadas pasadas. Pero el Papa más allá de perdonarlos no los conmina a que se arrepientan por sus abusos, y encima a veces los pone cómo si hubieran sido héroes.
    Eso a mucha gente obviamente la desespera, y a la desesperación puede seguir el desánimo.
    Pero a pesar de ello, yo siento que el cambiar de camino no es la solución.
    El camino hacia Dios uno lo puede elegir por sentir que le llega más, y que provoca mayores cambios en su persona, y que hace que perciba una mayor cercanía a la presencia de Dios, ahí bueno... me guste o no, no sería capaz de cuestionar a la gente que lo hace, pero cambiar de camino sólo por estar disconforme con las prácticas de los sacerdotes u otros componentes lo veo ilógico... porque para el caso también los protestantes cometen errores, y esto lo digo con todo respeto, no dejan de ser humanos, ninguno de ellos.
    Hay que entender que la Iglesia somos todos, los feligreses (la grey) también.
    Y por último, claro... cómo bien dijiste, la condena que recibe la Iglesia Católica de parte de algunos por la Edad Media, la Santa Inquisición y demás.
    Esas acusaciones son realmente dignas de los antiguos fariseos... porque no se termina de entender que los miembros de todas las iglesias son simples mortales... que sin dudas tienen un llamado de Dios, pero aún así no dejan de poder caer en errores.
    Es cierto que cuándo yo señalo al Papa pareciera que estoy actuando de la misma manera, pero lo que yo humildemente le reclamo es algo muy puntual... me gustaría que sea más estricto en lo que lo amerita... está bien perdonar, pero si no se logra un cambio interno en la otra persona y ésta sigue creyendo que siempre ha actuado bien, no sirve de nada ese perdón.
    Así no se está evangelizando realmente sino.
    Quote Originally Posted by Argentano View Post
    as long as that left wing pope is in the vatican i couldnt feel less catholic.



    Exacto, odio a ese zurdo hijo de puta de francisco.
    Goodbye and Erronkari and Argentano, you don't deserve me.

    I'm now going to put all Argentinians I encounter on my IGNORE LIST.

    Goodbye forever. This is my last message to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erronkari View Post
    You misunderstood the chart.
    The second chart is the valid, Argentina is 65% catholic, more than many latinamerican countries.
    And I didn't said nothing about catholic church but just of this weak Pope.
    I am still catholic and I defend the catholic religion, so please:
    1- Don't call again my mother as "whore". She died 21 years ago. Respect her memory, please.
    2- A real catholic doesn't hate any folk.
    3- What I say is we need a real Pope, not a leftist who protect former atheist terrorists.
    We can have different views, but please, respect the memory of my mother.
    I'm sorry I got carried away. But Argentina still lost 20+ percentage of their Catholic population.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Selurong View Post
    I'm sorry I got carried away. But Argentina still lost 20+ percentage of their Catholic population.
    Again, please, respect the memory of my mother.
    She wasn't a whore.
    And she was a strong catholic and conservative woman. Do you undersand???

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    The fake religion needs to dissaperear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erronkari View Post
    Again, please, respect the memory of my mother.
    She wasn't a whore.
    And she was a strong catholic and conservative woman. Do you undersand???
    I'm sorry I'm sorry your mother is good woman. I only put Argentano in ignore BTW but not you since I was mistaken on you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Selurong View Post
    Argentina is a shame to Catholicism. You unfaithful whores even got an Argentinian as the Pope yet 62% of you are now Protestant idiots (Protestants can't even make up their mind since there are 10,000 sects: Baptist, Anabaptist, Lutheran, Calvinist, Evangelical and etc. Ad Nauseam all conflicting with each other yet you willingly swallow their poison like it's water).

    You completely forgot that the Protestant British invaded the Falklands from you and the Protestant Americans destabilized your politics.

    We, we have been the target of Protestantinzation by our American colonizer for almost 200 years, yet we are faithful to the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church even though we are bombarded by our neighbors who are either Atheist, Muslim or Buddhist yet we remain an island of Catholicism in a sea surrounded by infidels.

    I used to love Argentina, now you showed your true colors and I now despise and hate your unfaithful country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erronkari View Post
    You misunderstood the chart.
    The second chart is the valid, Argentina is 65% catholic, more than many latinamerican countries.
    And I didn't said nothing about catholic church but just of this weak Pope.
    I am still catholic and I defend the catholic religion, so please:
    1- Don't call again my mother as "whore". She died 21 years ago. Respect her memory, please.
    2- A real catholic doesn't hate any folk.
    3- What I say is we need a real Pope, not a leftist who protect former atheist terrorists.
    We can have different views, but please, respect the memory of my mother.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo View Post
    It is like Gypsies, they became Protestant
    Spaniards and Pinoys are the only true Catholics left.

    EDIT: And Poles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Selurong View Post
    I'm sorry I'm sorry your mother is good woman. I only put Argentano in ignore BTW but not you since I was mistaken on you.
    It's ok, don't worry, indeed I am worry about the situation of the increase of protestant people.
    I would never talk against the Holy Catholic Church.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reyzuh View Post
    The fake religion needs to dissaperear.
    THE FAKE RELIGION YOU HATE WAS THE REASON MEXICO BECAME AN INDEPENDENT COUNTRY.

    Don Miguel Gregorio Antonio Francisco Ignacio Hidalgo-Costilla y Gallaga Mandarte Villaseñor[3]; 8 May 1753 – 30 July 1811), more commonly known as Don Miguel Hidalgo y Costilla or simply Miguel Hidalgo (Spanish pronunciation: [miˈɣel iˈðalɣo], was a Mexican Roman Catholic priest and a leader of the Mexican War of Independence.


    He was a professor at the Colegio de San Nicolás Obispo in Valladolid and was ousted in 1792. He served in a church in Colima and then in Dolores, Dias. After his arrival, he was shocked by the rich soil he had found. He tried to help the poor by showing them how to grow olives and grapes, but in Mexico, growing these crops was discouraged or prohibited by the authorities due to Spanish imports of the items.[4] In 1810 he gave the famous speech, "The Cry of Dolores", calling upon the people to protect the interest of their King Fernando VII (held captive by Napoleon) by revolting against the European-born Spaniards who had overthrown the Spanish Viceroy.[5]

    He marched across Mexico and gathered an army of nearly 90,000 poor farmers and Mexican civilians who attacked and killed both Spanish Peninsulares and Criollo elites, even though Hidalgo's troops lacked training and were poorly armed. These troops ran up onto an army of 6,000 well-trained and armed Spanish troops; most of Hidalgo's troops fled or were killed at the Battle of Calderón Bridge.[6]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miguel_Hidalgo_y_Costilla

    Nuestra Senora de Guadalupe was the Battle Standard of the Mexican Revolution against Spain.



    We Filipinos even helped you in that since the Pope consecrated the Philippines to Our Lady Guadalupe too and the Filipino soldiers helping assisting in the Mexican revolution lead by Filipino-Mexican Isidoro Montes de Oca was also a devotee of Our Lady of Guadalupe.

    I don't understand your hate of Catholicism, it's like hating your own mother or hating the best friend who saved your life.

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