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    this is how I search for it in nMonte and R



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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemgrant View Post
    this is how I search for it in nMonte and R
    Wait, but Mortimer is only half gypsy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not a Cop View Post
    Wait, but Mortimer is only half gypsy.
    That Roma sample is the closest to Mortimer when using the whole G25 datasheet. For example in my case it is individual called Russian_Orel:russianOrjol78 or Cossack_Kuban:GS000035179 when using averages. So I pick only them and then select speculative ancestry. Example:

    pen=0.001
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    [1] "distance%=1.6006"
    
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    Cossack_Kuban,95.8
    Italian_Jew,1.8
    Ashkenazi_Jew,1.2
    Sephardic_Jew,1.2
    pen=0
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    [1] "distance%=1.574"
    
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    Cossack_Kuban,94
    Sephardic_Jew,6
    pen=0.001
    Code:
    [1] "distance%=1.3959"
    
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    Russian_Orel,96
    Italian_Jew,2
    Ashkenazi_Jew,1.8
    Sephardic_Jew,0.2
    pen=0
    Code:
    [1] "distance%=1.5363"
    
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    Cossack_Kuban,89.4
    Greek,7.6
    Moroccan_Jew,3
    when I select for example Ukrainian individual samples from the datasheet, the majority of them score 100% Ukrainian in nMonte and do not score anything Jewish with this approach. More people need to try this and see if this is accurate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemgrant View Post
    this is how I search for it in nMonte and R
    5% Russian. Thats my amount from genealogy too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not a Cop View Post
    Wait, but Mortimer is only half gypsy.
    They must be mixed roma like I am. Check my G25 modern matches in my signature one roma group is first and one roma group is somehwere down the list. The other roma group must be more pure. The first roma group must be more mixed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CordedWhelp View Post
    Which region?Podlaskie?
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    Although it is likely you had ancestors who lived in Poland in the last 200 years, we have not been able to identify the specific regions in Poland where your ancestors may have lived.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    My answer would be no. 6% is nothing, especially if it's not an entirely different race. If I was 1/16 Serbian or even Gypsy, that would be barely seen on DNA tests.
    Yes it is very little. Thats why I didnt added the Russian permission group into my profile. But it isnt really that much distant. It was the grandfather of my grandmother and my grandmother knew him when she was a child.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not a Cop View Post
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    In your case by using averages: with averages you are closest to Russian_Tver. and it is known that you are 1/8 German.


    pretty good result

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemgrant View Post
    In your case by using averages: with averages you are closest to Russian_Tver. and it is known that you are 1/8 German.


    pretty good result
    Yeah, but my ancestry is more complicated, can you comare result of my grandma against Russian Tver? He mother is from Tver area and father is from Eastern Leningrad oblast.

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    Grandma_scaled,0.130897,0.099522,0.086738,0.078166 ,0.031083,0.028168,0.011986,0.014538,-0.001636,-0.025513,-0.000812,-0.009292,0.01888,0.019267,-0.007736,-0.000133,0.005607,-0.002534,0,0.003126,0.006613,-0.003957,0.002835,0.005663,0.00012

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    Grandma,0.0115,0.0098,0.023,0.0242,0.0101,0.0101,0 .0051,0.0063,-0.0008,-0.014,-0.0005,-0.0062,0.0127,0.014,-0.0057,-0.0001,0.0043,-0.002,0,0.0025,0.0053,-0.0032,0.0023,0.0047,0.0001

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not a Cop View Post
    Yeah, but my ancestry is more complicated, can you comare result of my grandma against Russian Tver? He mother is from Tver area and father is from Eastern Leningrad oblast.

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    Grandma_scaled,0.130897,0.099522,0.086738,0.078166 ,0.031083,0.028168,0.011986,0.014538,-0.001636,-0.025513,-0.000812,-0.009292,0.01888,0.019267,-0.007736,-0.000133,0.005607,-0.002534,0,0.003126,0.006613,-0.003957,0.002835,0.005663,0.00012

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    Grandma,0.0115,0.0098,0.023,0.0242,0.0101,0.0101,0 .0051,0.0063,-0.0008,-0.014,-0.0005,-0.0062,0.0127,0.014,-0.0057,-0.0001,0.0043,-0.002,0,0.0025,0.0053,-0.0032,0.0023,0.0047,0.0001
    with averages she is closest to Estonian.

    [1] "distance%=0.9532"

    Grandma

    Estonian,92.4
    German,7.6

    if I add also Udmurt to datasheet:

    [1] "distance%=0.8992"

    Grandma

    Estonian,89.4
    Udmurt,6.6
    German,4

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