I consider Spaniards to be white now

[Ruggery]

Some people ought to know better they have better things to do than defining 'white''.

Agree

[kleenex]

The term "white" has changed over time and is an ever changing construct. The Brits in the US didn't consider the German's "white" when they first arrived in the US. The Irish were considered "sub human" by the Anglos. Hell the Slavs (Poles) weren't consider "white" until the 1920's not to mention the Italians, Greeks, and other Slavs. What I notice living in Florida (as a native Floridian) is that there are "darker" individuals including West Asians, Middle Easterners, Central and South Americans who stand out and look "obviously" ethnic. If you don't fit into that category (the in between) then you essentially "blend in" with the average non ethnic type; 2nd, 3rd, 4th, generation Euro Americans; Meds, Middle Euros, West Euros, etc.

[Blondie]

Spaniards are the most northern shifted south european ethnic group of course they are whites.

[TeutonicBoyars]

Spaniards are the most northern shifted south european ethnic group of course they are whites.

Genetically, this is very true.

Pan's Labyrinth is one of my favorite movies of all time, but one of the greatest takeaways I got from that movie, aside from the amazing story, is that, appearance-wise, a lot of Spaniards look visibly Near Eastern, perhaps more than some South Italians I've seen, which is strange, since South Italians are pretty much teetering on the edge of being outright Near Eastern genetically.

[Leto]

The term "white" has changed over time and is an ever changing construct. The Brits in the US didn't consider the German's "white" when they first arrived in the US. The Irish were considered "sub human" by the Anglos. Hell the Slavs (Poles) weren't consider "white" until the 1920's not to mention the Italians, Greeks, and other Slavs.

This isn't really true, sounds more like typically leftist "deconstructionist" propaganda. If Italians, Poles and the Irish weren't considered legally white, they wouldn't have been allowed to immigrate in the first place. Sure there was some negative sentiments or prejudice against them, mainly because they weren't Protestants and came from a poor rural background, but that doesn't mean they were "non-white". Yes, the white race is not entirely a biological concept but its ability to change and "evolve" does have obvious limits. Somalis, Tamils, Amerindians, Vietnamese and many other groups will never be considered "white".

[Borealis]

Genetically, this is very true.

Pan's Labyrinth is one of my favorite movies of all time, but one of the greatest takeaways I got from that movie, aside from the amazing story, is that, appearance-wise, a lot of Spaniards look visibly Near Eastern, perhaps more than some South Italians I've seen, which is strange, since South Italians are pretty much teetering on the edge of being outright Near Eastern genetically.

i wonder how it happened

[Blondie]

Genetically, this is very true.

Pan's Labyrinth is one of my favorite movies of all time, but one of the greatest takeaways I got from that movie, aside from the amazing story, is that, appearance-wise, a lot of Spaniards look visibly Near Eastern, perhaps more than some South Italians I've seen, which is strange, since South Italians are pretty much teetering on the edge of being outright Near Eastern genetically.

I've seen this movie, and spaniards weren't near eastern looking

[TeutonicBoyars]

I've seen this movie, and spaniards weren't near eastern looking

You must have not seen the movie in a long time. Look up the actors in that movie and tell me they don't look Near Eastern. I remember two women from the dinner party scene literally looked like they rode a boat over from Morocco to attend that party.

This is objectively the whitest looking character in the movie:

[JMack]

''Germanin'' is probably that Hungarian girl ''KisKócos''.

[Blondie]

If they are near eastern than i'm chinese...