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    NOT MY OPINION JUST SHARING WHAT I FOUND

    Die Welt is a conservative daily close to Merkel’s Christian Democrat Party CDU. In this nicely set German New EU Order of “kick Greece out of the eurozone”, Greeks have no place. For reasons not only economical but also historical and -what a surprise! – even racial. For the simple claimed fact that “Greeks already destroyed once the European Order,” so the article title in the history section of DER WELT and because modern Greeks were not descendents of the famous Greeks of the antique, but a”Turkish-molded mixture of Slavs, Byzantines and Albanians.” What is interesting and extremely worrying at the same time is that the WELT-author revives racial theories of the Nazis, as he quotes 19th-century Austrian scholar Jakob Philipp Fallmerayer, a xenophobe and a slavophobe, who had invented the “Greeks are not real Greeks” theory.

    In the context of the DNA-based eligibility for EU membership, the thesis of Conservative WELT and CDU clearly implies that apart from the fake Greeks, neither real Turks, Slavs and Albanians should be allowed in the European family of undiluted blood and pour races.



    Racists to the bones

    The authors makes a reference to the Battle of Navarino in 1827, during the Greek War of Independence (1821–32), where the Great Powers (Britain, France and Russia) destroyed the Ottoman armada thus creating a breakthrough in the Greek Independence War against the Sultan.

    However, according to the author the motives of the Great Powers were not geostrategical as every political scientist would think nowadays, but noble and romantic.

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    “The idea the Greeks of modern times were descendants of Pericles or Socrates and not a Turkish-molded mixture of Slavs, Byzantines and Albanians, was a belief among the educated Europeans. Also the architects of the EU could not escape this belief. In this senses, they brought the clammy Greece into the European boat in 1980. The consequences can be admired every day.”


    The first volume of Fallmerayer’s Geschichte der Halbinsel Morea während des Mittelalters appeared in 1830, and he expressed his central theory in the foreword as follows:

    "The race of the Hellenes has been wiped out in Europe. Physical beauty, intellectual brilliance, innate harmony and simplicity, art, competition, city, village, the splendour of column and temple — indeed, even the name has disappeared from the surface of the Greek continent…. Not the slightest drop of undiluted Hellenic blood flows in the veins of the Christian population of present-day Greece.”

    Some Comments translated into English by KTG:

    1. Especially the people living in Greece nowadays have absolute nothing to do with the ancient Greeks.

    2. Dorians and Ionians were blond and blue-eyed, and big. Not to compare with the brown-eyed dark-haired Greeks of today.

    3. Strangely, the Mycenaeans were black-haired and black- or brown-eyed brown. They were probably not relatives to the Ionians, right? !

    4. No of course not. Dorians and Ionians were Germans, the Mycenaean were Slavs, the Minoans were Egyptians and I’m a Martian. Let’s ignore all genetic tests that prove the contrary.

    5. The Mycenaeans were migrants from the North.

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    https://www.keeptalkinggreece.com/20...eu-membership/

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    Then Germany has to leave the EU, it is full of Turks and Syrians hahaha. Not to forget all the Afghans Pakistanis and Nigerians that have also come here lately, the new German populace

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    Greeks are real Greeks of course. They are the same Greeks as they have been 10.000 years ago the ancient greeks.

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    But Eastern Germans are more Slavic than Greeks.

    Even Central Germans are more Slavic than Greeks.

    When is Die Welt going to publish something about this?

    Many Germans are not real Germans, but Slavs, Celts, etc.

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    It's typical anti-Greek propaganda from Germany. It went quiet for a bit but now it's resurfaced since Greece started moving away from Germany/EU (economically/politically wise) and closer to the U.S.

    There is a part of the German elite that never got over the fact that it failed to dismantle Greece into German protectorates and puppet states (see the Nazi occupation of Macedonia and the support of irredentism to Bulgaria and Northern Macedonia, for their latest endeavor) with two World Wars. This is the same part of their elite that is extremely anti-U.S. and anti-Britain (the natural allies of Greece, imho) and extremely pissed off that they are cut off from the warm seas, especially now that Turkey is going full Islam.

    Nordicism and Nordicists ("mah ancient Greekz were ze Germans") are also a byproduct of this resurfacing Nazi ideology.

    Greece would probably be better off outside a German-controlled union (as the EU is now) and better off inside a union with other pro-Atlantic countries like DeGaullian France, the UK, Italy (not under current leadership) and, of course, Israel. Let's not forget that Germany is extremely anti-Israel, also. Not a coincidence.
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    3. Strangely, the Mycenaeans were black-haired and black- or brown-eyed brown. They were probably not relatives to the Ionians, right? !

    4. No of course not. Dorians and Ionians were Germans, the Mycenaean were Slavs, the Minoans were Egyptians and I’m a Martian. Let’s ignore all genetic tests that prove the contrary.
    3 & 4 are clearly sarcastic.

    The issue isn't just Greece but all parties who were ghey for the Euro.

    EuroZone Profiteers: How German and French Banks Helped Bankrupt Greece


    A recent CorpWatch report - The EuroZone Profiteers - can help shed further light on this matter. While it's true that corrupt Greek politicians borrowed billions for shaky government schemes from these banks, there was a very good reason that the financiers made these rash loans: they were under pressure from European Union bureaucrats to compete in a global marketplace with U.K. and U.S. banks.
    But French banks knew that they could not make billions by competing in Germany, nor were German banks expecting to vanquish the French. They looked instead to a simpler and easier market to loan out the plentiful supply of cash they had - the poorer, mostly southern European states that had agreed to take part in the launch of a common currency called the Euro in 1999.

    The logic was clear: In the mid-1990s, national interest rates in Greece and Spain, for example, hovered around 14 percent, and at a similar level in Ireland during the 1992-1993 currency crisis. So borrowers in these countries were eager to welcome the northern bankers with seemingly unlimited supplies of cheap cash at interest rates as low as one to four percent.
    Off topic - sort of - but of more importance.

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    Lol "Dorians were Germans"

    How could they be Germans when we all know they were Serbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    Lol "Dorians were Germans"

    How could they be Germans when we all know they were Serbs.
    Hahahahah

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    German Welt
    Lol!


    Die Welt, the Jew-Zionist newspaper.

    Die Welt (The World) was a weekly newspaper founded by Theodor Herzl in May 1897 in Vienna. It was designed to promote Zionism. From 1897 to 1914 it was the principal organ of the Zionist movement. From 1897-1900, the paper was edited by Erwin Rosenberger.[1]

    Read more: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_Welt_(Herzl)


    His publisher Axel Springer, is a pro-zionist: http://www.worldjewishcongress.org/e...gacy-continues


    The Jew-Zionists always were behind Germans.

    Adolf Hitler was a Jew: https://www.google.gr/search?biw=128...30.2X6zu9_0ykA


    Germans and Nordic peoples are puppets. Germans are not monsters, Hitler made them so. I have start thinking pan-germanism and Nordicism are jewish-zionist plans to make northerners challenge wars and massacres in Europe(and the result was even Germans to be destroyed and holocausted by the allies). Do not only see the weapon, see behind it the one who holds it.




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    It’s 2019, and you claim people from Asia Minor are SOO different from the rest of europeans.(culturally ok, genetically, ah ok bye)
    Sorry, i refuse to argue with racist idiots who have views from 1000 years ago.

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