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    Quote Originally Posted by Armenian Bishop View Post
    Agree and True.



    Yea, California's Chinese immigration invasion floods and transforms some areas of the San Francisco Bay Area. What's that got to do with what i was saying? There're people who benefit politically by engaging in character assassinations, in this case against political affiliations (liberal vs conservative). Just read from Thucydides about the psychology of the Greek city-states, during the Peloponnesian Wars, and tell me if it benefited Athens or Sparta. Those whom sought to compromise and avoid extremist measures were ostracized.



    Is that some kind of red herring for slandering Lincoln? Lincoln's statement about "a house divided" was quoted from Matthews 12:25, in the Bible: "Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation, and every city or house divided against itself will not stand."



    Hey, did I say that the Per Capita income is greater?

    My point was that losing California would be a serious blow to the national economy of the remaining states. I didn't say that Californians are necessarily better off than all the other States.

    So, what was so irrelevant about it? I established a fact: California does have the largest Statewide Economy. I pointed out that it's a diverse resilient economy, regardless of how individual incomes compare with other states.

    I think you just hate California, as do a lot of others here. For people who claim that liberals are haters, I sure see a lot of conservatives whom wish ill upon California -- even against the 5,000,000 Californians who voted for Trump.
    lol, well then the solution is to stop Chinese immigration, California libshits are free to do that anytime they want. I meant literal military invasion. I was saying, the only way a country would be weakened by secession or a country breaking up is less people, less soldiers, less total GDP/money to spend on defense, but this is irrelevant in the modern world, atleast in most parts. Economically they can still trade.

    The situation of the Greek city states is very different, they actually had legit significant outside military threats and disunity made them much easier to conquer and be oppressed. They were also extremely similar people, unlike Americans.

    Not a fan of anti-freedom people who oppose self determination of peoples such as Abe(goes the same for "muh Kosovo", western Turks who don't even live near Kurdistan opposing a Kurdish state, Spaniards in fucking Galicia caring what happens with Catalonia, and "muh Danzig Corridor" people), so yeah, I guess so. Land nationalism is utterly useless. It's ethnic chauvinism, not nationalism. That being said, the Civil War should've still happened because slavery is a crime against humanity, but that's all it should've been about, not keeping the Union together. Some democracy.

    I don't wish ill upon California more than I do Bhutan, just don't recognize it as a legitimate part of the USA anymore. I'm not American anyway so my opinion doesn't matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richmondbread View Post
    How can one be Christian , yet anti Israel? If you know that truth. Jesus will return to the Holy City of Jerusalem. Israel fulfills scripture. Perhaps your issue is with the Illuminati, which is full of all kinds of globalists, many of them who hate and despise Israel.
    You dont understand that most Christians outside the bible belt and America itself do not follow your Baptist/dispensationalist like ideas of end times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toppo900 View Post
    Today's secular Israel has nothing to do with the bible whatsoever. The Christian Zionists and the Jews have this hate-love alliance to each of them in fulfilling their end times prophesies. Jesus would never acknowledge the Jews on what they did to him 2000 years ago. The Jewish messiah would NOT be Jesus.
    Most Christians would see it similarly.

    Some of the earlier Christian Evangelicals (in America) themselves were somewhat anti Jewish yet pro Israel.

    Nixon and Billy Graham (famous Evangelical in US) had a discussion about the Jews which wasnt positive.

    Graham responded, "This stranglehold (refering to the Jews) has got to be broken or the country's going down the drain." That line was picked up by media at the time and included in some of remembrances following his demise. Most of the conversation was not.

    "You believe that?" Nixon said, seeming to be pleasantly surprised with affirmation of an anti-Semitic streak that courses through many Nixon Oval Office conversations.

    "Yes, sir," Graham said to Nixon (and H.R Haldeman, the Nixon top aide later imprisoned for his role in the Watergate cover-up, who is apparently in the room for most, even all the conversation).

    "Oh, boy," replied Nixon. "So do I. I can't ever say that but I believe it."
    This quote shows the stranglehold that Jewry has on the US. Even presidents and public figures are hesitant to talk about influence of Jews in public.

    Yet somehow most Evangelicals in the US have become Jewish apologists. And most Jews arent fans of Evangelicals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XenophobicPrussian View Post
    lol, well then the solution is to stop Chinese immigration, California libshits are free to do that anytime they want. I meant literal military invasion. I was saying, the only way a country would be weakened by secession or a country breaking up is less people, less soldiers, less total GDP/money to spend on defense, but this is irrelevant in the modern world, atleast in most parts. Economically they can still trade.
    I don't know why you decided to pick this fight with me, but I'm really not interested in shooting the pingpong ball back and forth about a point that I made that isn't even relevant to what your talking about now. It seems that you're talking more about yourself, than what I'm saying. You're pontificating about external threats, but I never complained about it. As for internal threats, sure they can weaken the infrastructure of a country, especially if a war would break out.

    The situation of the Greek city states is very different, they actually had legit significant outside military threats and disunity made them much easier to conquer and be oppressed. They were also extremely similar people, unlike Americans.
    Different or similar is irrelevant to my point: I was talking about the psychology of intolerance that pervaded the mindset of the Peloponnesian War.

    Not a fan of anti-freedom people who oppose self determination of peoples such as Abe(goes the same for "muh Kosovo", western Turks who don't even live near Kurdistan opposing a Kurdish state, Spaniards in fucking Galicia caring what happens with Catalonia, and "muh Danzig Corridor" people), so yeah, I guess so. Land nationalism is utterly useless. It's ethnic chauvinism, not nationalism. That being said, the Civil War should've still happened because slavery is a crime against humanity, but that's all it should've been about, not keeping the Union together. Some democracy.
    Many Confederate Generals (Lee included) didn't want to see the country fragmented, and such people didn't want their own states to break away from the union of states; but, they chose loyalty to their own states, and chose to support the CSA; however, such generals pursued the path of succession and war only after if was forced upon them. By the same measure, I don't like to see the country torn apart with intolerance and internal strife. I support the right of the CSA to secede from the union, but Lincoln did make some valid points.

    I don't wish ill upon California more than I do Bhutan, just don't recognize it as a legitimate part of the USA anymore. I'm not American anyway so my opinion doesn't matter.
    I think you exhibit a hostility against California, based upon your perception that it's a liberal state; in the first place, you don't even acknowledge that it's part of the USA. Meanwhile, you're ignoring the 5,000,000 in California who voted for Trump (myself included). As you said yourself: You're not American, so your viewpoint is irrelevant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragoon View Post
    Most Christians would see it similarly.

    Some of the earlier Christian Evangelicals (in America) themselves were somewhat anti Jewish yet pro Israel.

    Nixon and Billy Graham (famous Evangelical in US) had a discussion about the Jews which wasnt positive.



    This quote shows the stranglehold that Jewry has on the US. Even presidents and public figures are hesitant to talk about influence of Jews in public.

    Yet somehow most Evangelicals in the US have become Jewish apologists. And most Jews arent fans of Evangelicals.

    I'm anti Jew and Pro Israel. that's me. Not really anti Jew. Just don't think we should bow down to them. One can support Israel's right to exist as a nation state, yet still put America first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Armenian Bishop View Post
    I don't know why you decided to pick this fight with me, but I'm really not interested in shooting the pingpong ball back and forth about a point that I made that isn't even relevant to what your talking about now. It seems that you're talking more about yourself, than what I'm saying. You're pontificating about external threats, but I never complained about it. As for internal threats, sure they can weaken the infrastructure of a country, especially if a war would break out.



    Different or similar is irrelevant to my point: I was talking about the psychology of intolerance that pervaded the mindset of the Peloponnesian War.



    Many Confederate Generals (Lee included) didn't want to see the country fragmented, and such people didn't want their own states to break away from the union of states; but, they chose loyalty to their own states, and chose to support the CSA; however, such generals pursued the path of succession and war only after if was forced upon them. By the same measure, I don't like to see the country torn apart with intolerance and internal strife. I support the right of the CSA to secede from the union, but Lincoln did make some valid points.



    I think you exhibit a hostility against California, based upon your perception that it's a liberal state; in the first place, you don't even acknowledge that it's part of the USA. Meanwhile, you're ignoring the 5,000,000 in California who voted for Trump (myself included). As you said yourself: You're not American, so your viewpoint is irrelevant.
    Not ignoring anyone, but majority rules. If the majority of Californians wanted to secede, it should be respected, same goes for if the majority of Americans didn't want California to be a part of the Union. The ones that didn't can attempt to move, the ones that love California can stay.

    How is the point I made irrelevant? What else would you be referring to by "the consequential collateral damage weakens the country". What other ways can a country be weakened by being separated other than the ways I mentioned, ie. being more vulnerable militarily. When Norway split off of Sweden in the early 1900s, how was it weakened other than militarily? How was the Czech Republic weakened when it lost Slovakia? Are Russians somehow worse off today because they don't share political borders with Tajiks anymore?

    There's literally no other point you could've been making with "the consequential collateral damage weakens the country" other than referring to military consequences, unless you were thinking of a civil war specifically(which is not what we were talking about, just secession, which can be peaceful) or some weird abstract useless concept of "unity" that liberals refer to when they claim Trump is "dividing" the country.
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    Nah maybe a propaganda war

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    I think America is increasingly moving in that direction. The division between the two groups is widening by the day. Reconciliation is not possible, nor wanted. Because that means compromise. And Christian Americans cannot and should not compromise with the devil. Those who do, are not genuine.
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    Well the Democratic party has major infighting so they will probably just destroy themselves and eventually the F.B.I or A.T.F is gonna crack down on ANTIFA
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaleoEuropean View Post
    Well the Democratic party has major infighting so they will probably just destroy themselves and eventually the F.B.I or A.T.F is gonna crack down on ANTIFA
    Yeah. I see now very recently, the media coordination is preparing to move to a new strategy -- if Mueller's congressional testimony this week fails to deliver to Democrats what they want, they already have a "plan B" going... which is: "Trump is a racist". They are already aggressively promoting this narrative, which will take over from the "Trump is a Russian collaborator" narrative, which is in the process of dying.
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