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    The picture above, the brazilian boxplots is a little different because of 2 things.

    1)Portuguese score more north sea than spanish

    2)actual germanic ancestry in the outliers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Argentano View Post
    The picture above, the brazilian boxplots is a little different because of 2 things.

    1)Portuguese score more north sea than spanish

    2)actual germanic ancestry in the outliers.
    It's kinda expected to see Argentinians and Brazilians, but any reasons for Cubans having higher northern ancestry?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not a Cop View Post
    It's kinda expected to see Argentinians and Brazilians, but any reasons for Cubans having higher northern ancestry?
    The cuban result looks identical to the spanish result. Dont pay attention to outliers. They are outliers.


    Take into consideration the more samples i have from a certain sample, the more outliers there will be

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    Quote Originally Posted by Argentano View Post
    Brazil is the country with more outliers followed by Argentina by far compared to the rest.

    Brazil also has the highest North Sea + Baltic ancestry not necessarily because of some northern euro population, but both because g
    German population and the Portugueses/Northwest Iberian with a bit more northern euro than the average for Spain and Italy.

    Argentina is the second and they have very varied results up North and down South due to German and South italian/East Mediterranean influence balancing the country results and average.

    Cuba, despite being very exclusive iberian, seems to be the third on average, but that not by a huge margin compared to others. This little difference could be just because their Galician influence that probably shows a bit more north euro since they share the same past of Portugueses.

    I just remembered Argentina Iberian immigration was also heavily Galician/Northwest Iberian, this could also explain their second place.

    Colombia have the lowest north euro by a quite considerable margin, I dont understand why, maybe their big Basque input... but thats still strange. I was expecting to see Colombia more north euro than DR, Mexico and PR who are very Canarian, South/Southeast Iberian and New Christian.

    Finally, Costa Rica the last interesting result, they have very diverse results despite being very small and very Iberian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Argentano View Post
    Looking againt at the boxplots, there is a 12.5% of the argentine sample that is actually below the south italian boxplots. Thats probably non southern euro ancestry.
    Makes sense

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenma de Pegasus View Post
    Brazil is the country with more outliers followed by Argentina by far compared to the rest.

    Brazil also has the highest North Sea + Baltic ancestry not necessarily because of some northern euro population, but both because g
    German population and the Portugueses/Northwest Iberian with a bit more northern euro than the average for Spain and Italy.

    Argentina is the second and they have very varied results up North and down South due to German and South italian/East Mediterranean influence balancing the country results and average.

    Cuba, despite being very exclusive iberian, seems to be the third on average, but that not by a huge margin compared to others. This little difference could be just because their Galician influence that probably shows a bit more north euro since they share the same past of Portugueses.

    I just remembered Argentina Iberian immigration was also heavily Galician/Northwest Iberian, this could also explain their second place.

    Colombia have the lowest north euro by a quite considerable margin, I dont understand why, maybe their big Basque input... but thats still strange. I was expecting to see Colombia more north euro than DR, Mexico and PR who are very Canarian, South/Southeast Iberian and New Christian.

    Finally, Costa Rica the last interesting result, they have very diverse results despite being very small and very Iberian.
    That analysis is perfect!
    And about Baltic ancestry, Brazil has the biggest diaspora of poles and probably ukranians too in LA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenma de Pegasus View Post
    Brazil is the country with more outliers followed by Argentina by far compared to the rest.

    Brazil also has the highest North Sea + Baltic ancestry not necessarily because of some northern euro population, but both because g
    German population and the Portugueses/Northwest Iberian with a bit more northern euro than the average for Spain and Italy.

    Argentina is the second and they have very varied results up North and down South due to German and South italian/East Mediterranean influence balancing the country results and average.

    Cuba, despite being very exclusive iberian, seems to be the third on average, but that not by a huge margin compared to others. This little difference could be just because their Galician influence that probably shows a bit more north euro since they share the same past of Portugueses.

    I just remembered Argentina Iberian immigration was also heavily Galician/Northwest Iberian, this could also explain their second place.

    Colombia have the lowest north euro by a quite considerable margin, I dont understand why, maybe their big Basque input... but thats still strange. I was expecting to see Colombia more north euro than DR, Mexico and PR who are very Canarian, South/Southeast Iberian and New Christian.

    Finally, Costa Rica the last interesting result, they have very diverse results despite being very small and very Iberian.
    We shouldnt really be paying that much attention to outliers because the more samples in a certain country, the more outliers there will be. 1% of 100 is 1. 1% of 1.000 is 10.

    The brazilian sample is by far the biggest with almost 1500 kits.


    819 P Rico
    1449 Brazil
    844 Argentina
    519 Mexico
    443 Cuba
    217 Colombia
    146 Costa Rica
    98 Panama
    263 Chile
    97 R Dominicana
    47 Guatemala
    45 Venezuela
    65 Peru
    45 Uruguay
    45 Paraguay
    34 Ecuador
    21 Bolivia
    26 El Salvador
    12 Honduras
    7 Nicaragua
    32 Belize
    202 Spain
    69 Portugal
    617 USA white
    57 USA mixed
    56 USA Native
    5 USA inuit
    59 Australia White
    2 Australia mixed
    14 Australia mixed abo
    93 Canada White
    12 Canada Native
    4 Canada Inuit
    53 SA White
    12 SA Coloured
    4 New Zealand White
    4 New Zealand Mixed
    0 New Zealand Maori
    30 Caribbean
    20 Haiti
    51 Italy
    16 Cape Verde
    2 Guyana
    25 Jamaica
    54 Mexican American
    137 Poland
    72 Russia
    18 Wales

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    Quote Originally Posted by Argentano View Post
    We shouldnt really be paying that much attention to outliers because the more samples in a certain country, the more outliers there will be. 1% of 100 is 1. 1% of 1.000 is 10.

    The brazilian sample is by far the biggest with almost 1500 kits.


    819 P Rico
    1449 Brazil
    844 Argentina
    519 Mexico
    443 Cuba
    217 Colombia
    146 Costa Rica
    98 Panama
    263 Chile
    97 R Dominicana
    47 Guatemala
    45 Venezuela
    65 Peru
    45 Uruguay
    45 Paraguay
    34 Ecuador
    21 Bolivia
    26 El Salvador
    12 Honduras
    7 Nicaragua
    32 Belize
    202 Spain
    69 Portugal
    617 USA white
    57 USA mixed
    56 USA Native
    5 USA inuit
    59 Australia White
    2 Australia mixed
    14 Australia mixed abo
    93 Canada White
    12 Canada Native
    4 Canada Inuit
    53 SA White
    12 SA Coloured
    4 New Zealand White
    4 New Zealand Mixed
    0 New Zealand Maori
    30 Caribbean
    20 Haiti
    51 Italy
    16 Cape Verde
    2 Guyana
    25 Jamaica
    54 Mexican American
    137 Poland
    72 Russia
    18 Wales
    True, but only the first phrase was about outliers. Averages are way more important.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenma de Pegasus View Post
    Brazil is the country with more outliers followed by Argentina by far compared to the rest.

    Brazil also has the highest North Sea + Baltic ancestry not necessarily because of some northern euro population, but both because g
    German population and the Portugueses/Northwest Iberian with a bit more northern euro than the average for Spain and Italy.

    Argentina is the second and they have very varied results up North and down South due to German and South italian/East Mediterranean influence balancing the country results and average.

    Cuba, despite being very exclusive iberian, seems to be the third on average, but that not by a huge margin compared to others. This little difference could be just because their Galician influence that probably shows a bit more north euro since they share the same past of Portugueses.

    I just remembered Argentina Iberian immigration was also heavily Galician/Northwest Iberian, this could also explain their second place.

    Colombia have the lowest north euro by a quite considerable margin, I dont understand why, maybe their big Basque input... but thats still strange. I was expecting to see Colombia more north euro than DR, Mexico and PR who are very Canarian, South/Southeast Iberian and New Christian.

    Finally, Costa Rica the last interesting result, they have very diverse results despite being very small and very Iberian.
    Colombians tend to have a slightly higher atlantic which is probably basque ancestry. But in that boxplot atlantic is not taken into account.

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    Could you post the average east med by country? Or any exotic admixture like Red Sea for example.

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