Why won't Atheists admit they have benefited from a Christian society?

[Richmondbread]

Atheists are sort of like the Negro race. Just as the Negro depended on the White man for benevolence , so does the Atheist depend on Christians for a fully functioning, fully operable society. It is because of this that they are coddled in a way. Imagine an Atheist living in an Islamic state. Their lives would be in danger. They owe a lot to Christianity. It has been the bedrock of civility and stability for hundreds of years. This is also the foundation of white western European culture. Do Atheists realize how free they are because of Christians? Christianity tolerates a more secular society. Because Christianity values the individual more, rather than a collective. That is something to think about before they go on their next quest to remove crosses from churches.

[Nazarene]

Pride

[Smeagol]

Because most atheists are spoiled millennials with low intelligence and no morals.

[Zeus]

Because western civilization advanced in spite of religion not because of it. The great era of western advancement occurred after the enlightenment and scientific revolution when society was moving towards secularization and as proven by examples like Galileo and evolutionary theory, religion has actively tried to stifle scientific advancement, not encourage it. Furthermore, most atheists would not admit they live in a christian society, if they live in countries like the US or France for example, because these countries have a strong history of secular values and separation of church and state. What has christianity itself done to advance human society? And what atheists are trying to "remove crosses from churches"

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

Because western civilization advanced in spite of religion not because of it. The great era of western advancement occurred after the enlightenment and scientific revolution when society was moving towards secularization and as proven by examples like Galileo and evolutionary theory, religion has actively tried to stifle scientific advancement, not encourage it. Furthermore, most atheists would not admit they live in a christian society, if they live in countries like the US or France for example, because these countries have a strong history of secular values and separation of church and state. What has christianity itself done to advance human society? And what atheists are trying to "remove crosses from churches"

I agree with everything you said but I have to say that on an individual level Christianity is positive. The amount of charitable work many Christians do is quite astounding. This may be a result of people with a particular personality type being drawn to Christianity or social conditioning (or half and half) I don't know but what I do know is on the individual level Christians are some of the most giving people and that is a positive for society.

[Bellbeaking]

How imperative has christianity been in the success of the west? Who knows tbh

Because Christianity values the individual more, rather than a collective. That is something to think about before they go on their next quest to remove crosses from churches.

One could argue western liberalism is as much to do with genetics as Christianity. NW euros are uniquely individualistic in a way that other christian groups are not, no one knows exactly why, though there are many theories from cold winters(and the concomitant need for cooperation) to a lack of consanguinity, which means less tribal based marriage. These maps are meme tier but most academic research comes to similar conclusions:



Furthermore, White Atheists and the political affiliation sthey subscribe to (libertarianism, liberalism) are more individualistic than White Christians in the west (to a fault IMO). Collectivism is a conservative, right wing trait, as it has less to do with economics than many think (nordics are individualist countries and the welfare state actually negates the need for socio-cultural collectivism - their 'socialist' economics upholds peoples individuality and frees them from social ties). Individualism is a social-cultural value involving value for community, tribe, family etc

Though all things considered ME Christians are more tolerant than their Muslim counterparts, so it is likely that there are benefits of Christianity, and I still consider myself a christian despite not really believing in god (as is common in Europe) because its an important part of the heritage of my lineage and a source of tradition and unity.

Because western civilization advanced in spite of religion not because of it. The great era of western advancement occurred after the enlightenment and scientific revolution when society was moving towards secularization and as proven by examples like Galileo and evolutionary theory, religion has actively tried to stifle scientific advancement, not encourage it. Furthermore, most atheists would not admit they live in a christian society, if they live in countries like the US or France for example, because these countries have a strong history of secular values and separation of church and state. What has christianity itself done to advance human society? And what atheists are trying to "remove crosses from churches"

If we where conquered by Muslims we may never had things like separation of church and state, but its impossible to tell how Europeans would have molded with Islam, hitler believed Muslim Germanics would have achieved greatness for example lol. Many atheists are obnoxious on the internet for sure, but the atheistic war on Christmas and stuff seems to be a uniquely American hysteria, perhaps they have more asshole nonbelievers or its just fox news nonsense or a mix of both!

[IrisSelene]

I actually think science did most but okay

[Richmondbread]

Because western civilization advanced in spite of religion not because of it. The great era of western advancement occurred after the enlightenment and scientific revolution when society was moving towards secularization and as proven by examples like Galileo and evolutionary theory, religion has actively tried to stifle scientific advancement, not encourage it. Furthermore, most atheists would not admit they live in a christian society, if they live in countries like the US or France for example, because these countries have a strong history of secular values and separation of church and state. What has christianity itself done to advance human society? And what atheists are trying to "remove crosses from churches"

That is not truth. It was the church that was the moral foundation. Every community was anchored in the church. It helped society grow as a whole. The secular world would not exist without Christian virtue. People think secularism is apart from God, but God is in the secular as well. Christianity inspired beautiful art, music, and literature. Atheism is just another form of unenthused Satan worship.

[Richmondbread]

I actually think science did most but okay

Which God created.

[IrisSelene]

Which God created.

There's no proof. Please stop assuming everyone believes in your God or trying to force everyone to believe in him.