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    Norway finds 'Russian spy whale' off Arctic coast

    29th April 2019


    The whale was keen to make new friends - and was set free of its equipment

    A beluga whale found off Norway's coast wearing a special Russian harness was probably trained by the Russian navy, a Norwegian expert says.

    Marine biologist Prof Audun Rikardsen said the harness had a GoPro camera holder and a label sourcing it to St Petersburg. A Norwegian fisherman managed to remove it from the whale.

    He said a Russian fellow scientist had told him that it was not the sort of kit that Russian scientists would use.

    Russia has a naval base in the region.

    The tame beluga repeatedly approached Norwegian boats off Ingoya, an Arctic island about 415km (258 miles) from Murmansk, where Russia's Northern Fleet is based. Belugas are native to Arctic waters.

    Norway's public broadcaster NRK has put out a video showing the beluga's harness being released.

    Prof Rikardsen told the BBC that the harness "was attached really tightly round its head, in front of its pectoral fins and it had clips". He said there was a GoPro attachment, but no camera.

    "A Russian colleague said they don't do such experiments, but she knows the navy has caught belugas for some years and trained them - most likely it's related to that," he said.



    A Russian reserve colonel, who has written previously about the military use of marine mammals, shrugged off Norway's concern about the beluga.

    But he did not deny that it could have escaped from the Russian navy.

    'Combat roles'

    Interviewed by Russian broadcaster Govorit Moskva, Col Viktor Baranets said "if we were using this animal for spying do you really think we'd attach a mobile phone number with the message 'please call this number'?"

    "We have military dolphins for combat roles, we don't cover that up," he said.

    "In Sevastopol (in Crimea) we have a centre for military dolphins, trained to solve various tasks, from analysing the seabed to protecting a stretch of water, killing foreign divers, attaching mines to the hulls of foreign ships."

    The dolphin facility in Crimea used to be under Ukrainian control, but was seized by the Russian navy in 2014, when Russian forces took over the peninsula.

    Prof Rikardsen, who teaches at the University of Tromso, said "belugas, like dolphins and killer whales, are quite intelligent - they are Arctic animals and quite social, they can be trained like a dog".

    He said the harness was difficult to remove - the last clip was undone by attaching a hook to it and letting the whale drag the Norwegian fishing boat.

    "The beluga had come to the boats repeatedly for two or three days, looking for food, with its mouth open," he told the BBC.

    "It's a challenge now if the whale will adjust to natural food. Also it needs to find a group - if not, it will probably still come up to a boat."


    A US Navy dolphin in the Gulf in 2003 - helping US forces in the Iraq War

    US Navy dolphins

    During the Cold War the US Navy set up a special programme for training dolphins and sea lions in California.

    The US Navy Marine Mammal Program, based in San Diego, uses bottlenose dolphins and California sea lions for locating mines and other dangerous objects on the ocean floor.

    The navy website also says the animals are used to detect unauthorised personnel underwater who could potentially harm US ships.

    The US Navy deployed dolphins to the Gulf during the Iraq War in 2003 to help mine-clearance teams.

    Video here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-48090616
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    Gotta hand them that one: that's a creative solution. It seems to me that the Russki's are beginning to learn how to use their imagination.



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    I think there is something deeply perverse about it: using animals to fight a war..



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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker View Post
    I think there is something deeply perverse about it: using animals to fight a war..
    Animals doesn't bother me overall, but specifically Belugas(and dogs) does. Some of earth's most magnificent, intelligent creatures.
    The Guanche skulls as a whole are unlike those of modern European Mediterraneans, and resemble northern European series most closely, especially those in which a brachycephalic element is present, as in Burgundian and Alemanni series.
    divided them into clearly differentiated types, which include a Mediterranean, a Nordic, a "Guanche," and an Alpine. The "Guanche" accounts for 50 per cent of the whole on the four islands of Teneriffe, Gomera, Gran Canaria, and Hierro; the Nordic for 31 per cent, the Mediterranean for 13 per cent, and the Alpine
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    Quote Originally Posted by XenophobicPrussian View Post
    Animals doesn't bother me overall, but specifically Belugas(and dogs) does. Some of earth's most magnificent, intelligent creatures.
    It just seems deeply unethical to me. Maybe it's just me.



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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker View Post
    It just seems deeply unethical to me. Maybe it's just me.
    I can kind of see how this can be justified as harmless, I don't think it's THAT bad but I'd be against it.

    However, people who straight up hunt whales and elephants are truly some of the worst scum out there.
    The Guanche skulls as a whole are unlike those of modern European Mediterraneans, and resemble northern European series most closely, especially those in which a brachycephalic element is present, as in Burgundian and Alemanni series.
    divided them into clearly differentiated types, which include a Mediterranean, a Nordic, a "Guanche," and an Alpine. The "Guanche" accounts for 50 per cent of the whole on the four islands of Teneriffe, Gomera, Gran Canaria, and Hierro; the Nordic for 31 per cent, the Mediterranean for 13 per cent, and the Alpine
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    Quote Originally Posted by XenophobicPrussian View Post
    I can kind of see how this can be justified as harmless, I don't think it's THAT bad but I'd be against it.

    However, people who straight up hunt whales and elephants are truly some of the worst scum out there.
    Let's put it this way: if they do it for food. I can understand it. For trophy ? That's a different story. Maybe it's their heads that should be turned into trophies and put on a wall.



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