R1b-L21 Panel: my results

[Morena]

Double posts. Double posts everywhere.

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Finally got my YSEQ results. Turns out that my final haplogroup is R1b-FGC17866.
All known downstream branches have been confirmed negative.

Results summary:

R1b-L21
DF13 C+
Z39589 del+
DF49 G-
L1335 A-
DF41 T-
Z251 G-
S1051 T+
FGC17906 C+
FGC17938 G-
S1050 C-
FGC17907 G+
FGC19454 C-
FGC17866 A+
FGC17898 C-
FGC17897 C-

[Sp_loa]

Finally got my YSEQ results. Turns out that my final haplogroup is R1b-FGC17866.
All known downstream branches have been confirmed negative.

Results summary:

R1b-L21
DF13 C+
Z39589 del+
DF49 G-
L1335 A-
DF41 T-
Z251 G-
S1051 T+
FGC17906 C+
FGC17938 G-
S1050 C-
FGC17907 G+
FGC19454 C-
FGC17866 A+
FGC17898 C-
FGC17897 C-

Just checked this thread 10 minutes ago.. I waited to see your final subclade. Are all members of this subclade Portuguese?

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Just checked this thread 10 minutes ago.. I waited to see your final subclade. Are all members of this subclade Portuguese?

As far as I am concerned I am the only known person to have this specific SNP so far. If we climb down the ladder and check SNP FGC17906 (which I am also positive for), yes, all known case studies so far happen to be Portuguese with the exception of a Scottish individual.

[Graham]

So your R-L21 comes from a scots migrant being the oldest? if so how long ago is that dated?

Can make sense of it at least from this side and our timeline.

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

So your R-L21 comes from a scots migrant being the oldest? if so how long ago is that dated?

Can make sense of it at least from this side and our timeline.

Not necessarily, if we recede on the YTree ladder you will see that even under S1051 there's a Portuguese individual:



And an Irishman, a British, a Frenchman and an American...hard to pin point how it was introduced in the region.

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

So your R-L21 comes from a scots migrant being the oldest? if so how long ago is that dated?

Can make sense of it at least from this side and our timeline.

"The majority of this family group have 5 main Patriarch SNP's (S1051, FGC9655, FGC9661, FGC9658 and FGC9657). The current age estimate for these Patriarch SNP's is approximately 3,200 to 4,500 years old and likely originated within what is known as the Bell Beaker culture. When examining other haplogroups of a similar age the S1051 people are very few by comparison.

Evidence suggests that the geographic origin of this family group could have been from what is now modern Scotland."

[JohnN]

Hi We have somewhat similar Haplogroups, I am S1051 > FGC17906 > FGC17907. Interested in your map showing cluster in Portugal & south France, what is source?
Do you have any conections to Azores? FGC17906 has cluster in West Scotland and Azores, perhaps from Scottish traders had contact with Azores.
Also interested in your Welsh connection and Danish links.
John N

[Rocinante]

Nice Bras. So guess all the L21 in Iberia always fall in DF13 branch, i might be DF13 as well.