"Proto-Iranians were not Northern Europeans"

[Halgurd]

It suggests that Uralic speakers might have assimilated IE speakers, hence the R1a in the region.

Token is a self-purported academic scholar, you should listen to him

Or maybe early Indo-Iranian men had some fun with Uralic ladies?

[Guti]

The Southern Arc paper agrees that the Indo-Iranians came from the steppe. Dozens of Proto-Indo-Iranic and Proto-Iranic loanwords into Proto-Uralic and Proto-Finno-Ugric, including the fact that "Aryan" in Proto-Uralic (a Siberian hunter-gatherer language) means slave, prove that the Indo-Iranians lived in the northern steppes and not in western Asia, which is the dominant view among linguists and archaeologists.

Lol.


Once again it is proto-Indo-Iranian and they don't discuss proto-Iranian. Furthermore the ARYAN Medes were Western-Iranian. The gap in time and space between proto-Indo-Iranian is and Western-Iranian is huge.

Think of proto-Balto-Slavic and Western-Slavic languages. The gap in time and space between proto-Balto-Slavic and Western-Slavic is huge.

[Halgurd]

All of them stem from Proto-Indo-Iranian *arya so it doesn't matter, in Uralic slave is still "orja" (from PII *arya). Your ancestors were enslaved by Siberian hunter-gatherer tribes and this is still remembered by their descendants.

I didn’t even know what an Uralic was until I spoke to you subhuman

[Token]

I didn’t even know what an Uralic was until I spoke to you subhuman

You didn't know what an Uralic was, but Uralics still remember you orja as a race of slaves. Bow down before your Uralic enslavers

[Guti]

Early Indo-Iranians dominated everyone in their path and even took down the biggest empire the world had ever seen in the Iron Age. Slave my ass.

But you fail to understand that the Medes were not Indo-Iranians by any sense.

The Medes were ARYANS, with other words Western-Iranians. Western-Iranians were already separated from the proto-Indo-Europeans, proto-Indo-Iranians, proto-Iranians by thousands of years.


Kurds (language, religion and culture) are derived from the Western-Iranics (Medes) and not from the proto-Indo-Iranians.

[Halgurd]

You didn't know what an Uralic was, but Uralics still remember you orja as a race of slaves. Bow down before your Uralic enslavers

Hold up lol how does this even suggest Uralics enslaved Aryans?

Traditionally taken as a borrowing from the Proto-Indo-Iranian autonym *áryas, or from an earlier stage of development (practically Proto-Indo-European) *óryos, with meaning 'slave' developing in a similar way as Latin sclavus (“slave”) from Sclavus (“Slav”).[1] EVE supports this etymology and argues that the meaning "south, southener" is a parallel development from the Indo-Aryan endonym through the meaning "a people living south".[2]

They have a common root but it doesn’t mean the same thing nor does it suggest Siberian hunter-gatherers enslaved Aryans lmao

[Leto]

Okay, this is descending into trolling again. Let's ban Guti and close the thread for starters.

[Guti]

I was referring to the late iron age inhabitants and Arya and Aryana being Parthians and Sogdians. I don't have enough info on Medes

If you don't have enough info on the Medes you should stop talking.

Because it is the Medes that concern mostly the Kurds and not 'other Iranics'.


Parthians derived from the Medes and not the other way around. The Medes called themselves 'Aryans' even long before Parthians came into the existence.

[Leto]

If you don't have enough info on the Medes you should stop talking.

Because it is the Medes that concern mostly the Kurds and not 'other Iranics'.


Parthians derived from the Medes and not the other way around. The Medes called themselves 'Aryans' even long before Parthians came into the existence.

The Yaghnobi people are THE most Aryanic group of people that is still extant. They also have little Mongoloid/East Eurasian. They're almost 50/50 Andronovo/BMAC. A living fossil.

[Leto]

Turks are 100% Turano-Mongoloid monkeys, while real ethnic Kurds and real Persians are 100% Aryans

Lol. A Turk in some comment section or on Telegram once told me Kurds are "darker than his shit" when I implied Kurds are closer to whites because of their IE language.
Apparently Kurds are seen as chernozhopy in Turkey.