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    Default Serbian Cyrillic document from Western Bosnia written 1596

    It's written in July 1596 by Serbs from Western Bosnia to Austrians, it's the proposal for common action against Ottomans. Modern Serbs can easy read and understand text.




    Pismo prote Radoslava iz Pounja nadhercegu Ferdinandu - 5. Juli 1596

    Od hristijanskih sinov, mi protopopa Radoslav, biškup pounskih i poglavnik i zapovidnik trideset popov i pravitelj hristijanske vire, vazmnožmomu i vazveločenomu i smožitomu i svitloga roda kraljeva plemenu i tanačniku i zapovidniku generalom, biškupom, banom, kapitanom i vicekapitanom, vojvodam, španom i desetnikom svih slovinskih i hrvatskih i primorskih krajin i zemalj štejerskih i kotoranskih i svih zapadnih zemalj gospodin gospodinu hercegu, pišemo poklon i lipo pozdravljenije: pounska krajina, vlaški sinovi, najpri biškup Radoslav, vojvoda Miloš, knez Dojčin, knez Rak, Bogdan aga, knez Vranješ, knez Manojlo, Vujica juzbaša, knez Bogdan, haranbaša Drakula, odabaše Tomaš, Radohna, Radoje, Živko, Vojin, Slavuj, Novak, bešli baša Novak, knez Radoslav Hranislav, knez Vujin i knezovi pounski kraj i svi junaci mali i veliki, preporučenije gospodinu hercegu i svim njegovim poglavnikom. Eto čujemo da hoćeš napridovati na ovu krajinu pounsku. Hodi u dobri čas naprid, a mi ćemo čekati, kako vaša milost nam odlučak pošalje, te i kako Bog da, jere se vašoj milosti volimo dati i služiti gospodinu Isu Krstu i Marije materi i križu Božijemu i svim svecem, nego li služiti poganim Turkom i viri prokletog Muhameda odpadnika, ki nas popiraju i našu viru, i tiraju da mi kršćenu krv prolivamo, a mi volimo njih krv prolivati nego li nego svoje vire kršćene. A sad i, vaša milost, molimo, takajše dva kneza, saki po grad, koji to dugovanije spravljamo. Ne išćemo od vas punih zemalj nego od sedamdeset pustih gradov, koji su pusti među Unu i Kupu, i od njih ne išćemo velikih nego malih eda bi Bog dao, da Uni oslobodimo i dalje, jere morate ako hoćete s Bogom jedinim i sa vašim trudom i našim. I ako Bog dade, da se mi sastanemo, hoće Bog viditi, kako ćemo ovu krajinu oslobiditi s Bogom jedinim i vam pravo i pošćeno služiti. Jere, gospodine milostivi, ako dojdete, hoće se ova zemlja dati i gradovi zajedno i mi vašoj milosti nećemo nevire učiniti srh Boga jedinoga.
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    Those were people who weren't happy when my distant cousin Hasan paša instituted new religion in Bihać and surroundings.

    I respect their efforts, but Krajna became muslim territory and it is as such even today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    Those were people who weren't happy when my distant cousin Hasan paša instituted new religion in Bihać and surroundings.

    I respect their efforts, but Krajna became muslim territory and it is as such even today.
    ...Nego li služiti poganim Turkom i viri prokletog Muhameda otpadnika...

    Your ancestors were still Orthodox Christian in 1596. They became Ottoman servants 100 years later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    ...Nego li služiti poganim Turkom i viri prokletog Muhameda otpadnika...

    Your ancestors were still Orthodox Christian in 1596. They became Ottoman servants 100 years later.
    yeah i have a lot of Bosniak austosmal matches from Bosanska krajina. they were obviously Serbs before.

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    Cool, this is where my ancestors came from before settling in Dalmatia in the 1600s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    ...Nego li služiti poganim Turkom i viri prokletog Muhameda otpadnika...

    Your ancestors were still Orthodox Christian in 1596. They became Ottoman servants 100 years later.
    In 3rd century A.D. Vlach ruler from Dalmatia consulted the Divine Oracles of "god" Apollo, priest told him that "god" refuse to speak
    because of those Jewish Newcomers who worship "Jesus" and Emperor decided to start a massive prosecution of Christians that
    in the end resulted in over 20.000+ dead civilians in a few months just to satisfy Pagan Gods.

    Only after Edict of Milan, Christians were permitted to worship Jesus.

    So you see... Religions change... some completely die, new ones come.... nothing new.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayetooey View Post
    Cool, this is where my ancestors came from before settling in Dalmatia in the 1600s.
    Yea, my ancestors also.

    In document is mentioned knez Vranješ.
    Serbs with surname Vranješ still live in Western Bosnia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dick View Post
    yeah i have a lot of Bosniak austosmal matches from Bosanska krajina. they were obviously Serbs before.
    I have, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    In 3rd century A.D. Vlach ruler from Dalmatia consulted the Divine Oracles of "god" Apollo, priest told him that "god" refuse to speak
    because of those Jewish Newcomers who worship "Jesus" and Emperor decided to start a massive prosecution of Christians that
    in the end resulted in over 20.000+ dead civilians in a few months just to satisfy Pagan Gods.

    Only after Edict of Milan, Christians were permitted to worship Jesus.

    So you see... Religions change... some completely die, new ones come.... nothing new.
    Those whose change religion from economic and social benefits are traitors in their nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAPASTRATOSELS26 View Post
    Those whose change religion from economic and social benefits are traitors in their nation.
    And your Patriarchs initiated massacres of Maniote Greeks who were worshiping Zeus in 8th - 9th century A.D. were they traitors or your Patriarchs were Clero-Fascist murderers?

    You are traitor to Zeus, Apollo, Artemis, Aphrodite

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