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    Quote Originally Posted by Teutone View Post
    I never saw this anywhere in Europe except France



    and who cares where they come from, a muslim is a muslim. A white muslim is on the same scale like a arab one, well no, the white one is much worse.
    At least Russian muslims are whiter than those which live in western Europe.
    Russia is serious power and will not alow any rebellion of muslims. Unlike Russia, western Europe don't have resources to spot muslim invasion and own destruction.
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    Record from the Benkovac area in northern Dalmatia written by Orthodox priest in 18th century with the same version of Cyrillic as this letter from Pounje 1596. In this record is domination of ekavian reflex yat plus there is a 2 ikavian and 1 ijekavian word : ekavian (leto X9, meseca X4, greh, sredu, sveta, cvetonosie, beše, sedeše, sedeši, vremena), ikavian (miseca X3, kapitan), ijekavian (poslie).
    Since Serbs from that area and Dalmatia in general are not ekavians i suppose he adopted ekavian reflex on some other place (maybe in Sremski Karlovci in Syrmia spiritual/religious center of Orthodox Serbs during the 18th century).
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    Cyrillic is the oldest Serbian script, only one in the middle age and quite later. Serbs did not use Latin script before 19th century, and expansion of Latin script happened in 20th century in Yugoslavia.
    Protection of Cyrillic is needed in Serbia. I would introduce an additional tax for the domestic companies and shops whose names are written in Latin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varda View Post
    Record from the Benkovac area in northern Dalmatia written by Orthodox priest in 18th century with the same version of Cyrillic as this letter from Pounje 1596. In this record is domination of ekavian reflex yat plus there is a 2 ikavian and 1 ijekavian word : ekavian (leto X9, meseca X4, greh, sredu, sveta, cvetonosie, beše, sedeše, sedeši, vremena), ikavian (miseca X3, kapitan), ijekavian (poslie).
    Since Serbs from that area and Dalmatia in general are not ekavians i suppose he adopted ekavian reflex on some other place (maybe in Sremski Karlovci in Syrmia spiritual/religious center of Orthodox Serbs during the 18th century).
    Letter of Bunjevci from Bačka to the pope Clement IX from 1668 is also written with same version of Cyrillic as document from Pounje and Benkovac which are written by Orthodox Serbs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bunjevci

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    The Latin script was officially introduced in Serbia in 1915. by the A-H occupiers. Later it became mainstream. Since 1945. Latin public inscriptions in Serbia are more numerous than Cyrrilic.

    Serbian elite from present day Croatia (Dalmatia and Military Frontier) used Latin script parallel with Cyrillic earlier in the past (in 17th and 18th century).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    In my area in Dalmatia voice H was ignored, for example snaa (snaha), smij (smeh/smijeh), oras (orah), Ercegovina (Hercegovina), grija (greh/grijeh), artija (hartija), aljina (haljina)...
    Both Orthodox Serbs and Bunjevci from my region ignored voice H.

    You Serbian speaking Muslims use voice H very often. You exaggerate with H.

    Term Isu Krst from document was used by my ancestors. I remember that my great-grandmother who lived 96 years somethimes said Isu Krst.
    Interesting how some dialects voice the H and other dont, in Slovak H in words like ľahké or žehnať are still quite clear
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karol Klačansky View Post
    Interesting how some dialects voice the H and other dont, in Slovak H in words like ľahké or žehnať are still quite clear
    Christians of Dinaric region lost voice H probably in 17th century, unlike them Muslims of the same region preserved voice H. Dinaric Christians started to use voice H again in 20th century due to mass education. Many older rural people still don't use voice H.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    We are historically related to Eastern Mediterranean peoples, Greeks and Anatolians through Ancient Rome, Ecumenal Patriarchy, then Islam after conversions.

    Austria is basically Southern Germany, they are culturally and historically completely unrelated to us.

    5-10 mil Serbo-Bulgarian and at least 3 times that number of muslim Greeks live in Turkey.

    If there was no religion issues, it would be natural for Balkan to join Turkey.
    it scares me there are ethnic europeans who think this way. Bosnians genetically are also clearly more related to austrians and germans than to Turks, genetically you are still basically central europeans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    I am talking about Balkan people in Turkey, not other Anatolian people.

    Serbs are closer to people of Constantinople (Istanbul) that was your religious center, from those people (here I'll be humble and say that Christianity came from Greeks).

    Now when they pick a new religion you don't like them...

    Those muslims in Istanbul gave Christianity in Europe and as you have already seen A LOT of Serbian people in Marmara region of Turkey.

    Russian, Germans?... give me break... not a chance.
    they didnt pick a new religion, they were conquered by a forein central asian people and forced to convert or be happy with being second rate citizens (if this option was even available to them)
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