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    Quote Originally Posted by PAPASTRATOSELS26 View Post
    I believe the language evolves over time than to change.

    All the languages evolves in time.
    So don't be sad. It's the Natural Law.
    Yes.
    In Western Serbia people today speak different dialect of Serbian language than 60-70 years ago. After WW2 they changed dialect due to education/school system and media. Only few old people in Western Serbia still speak original dialect of that region.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    That's why we use H, KaHva, LaHko etc..

    We were the literate part of Balkans while Orthodoxes destroyed their language because of poor school system.
    In my area in Dalmatia voice H was ignored, for example snaa (snaha), smij (smeh/smijeh), oras (orah), Ercegovina (Hercegovina), grija (greh/grijeh), artija (hartija), aljina (haljina)...
    Both Orthodox Serbs and Bunjevci from my region ignored voice H.

    You Serbian speaking Muslims use voice H very often. You exaggerate with H.

    Term Isu Krst from document was used by my ancestors. I remember that my great-grandmother who lived 96 years somethimes said Isu Krst.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    In my area in Dalmatia voice H was ignored, for example snaa (snaha), smij (smeh/smijeh), oras (orah), Ercegovina (Hercegovina), grija (greh/grijeh), artija (hartija), aljina (haljina)...
    Both Orthodox Serbs and Bunjevci from my region ignored voice H.

    You Serbian speaking Muslims use voice H very often. You exaggerate with H.

    Term Isu Krst from document was used by my ancestors. I remember that my great-grandmother who lived 96 years somethimes said Isu Krst.
    We haven't invented that "H" recently .. it has been probably spoken before for hundreds of years.

    And how you mean "Serbian speaking" we are speaking our language no matter what it's called... we never spoke any other language. (except those who were turkified and latinized)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    We haven't invented that "H" recently .. it has been probably spoken before for hundreds of years.
    In words as Lahko you exaggerate with H.

    Bulgarians originally use voice H, and Šopi not. That is one of differences between them.

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    "od nas hristianskih sinovi"

    Christian struggle against the Muslim occupiers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    Hasan paša Predojević conquered Bihać 1592, that document is made 4 years later.

    We don't know when my family became muslims probably in early 17th century or 16th.

    You don't need to be bothered with that, there are 2 mil "traitors" in Bosnia and you can't do anything about that.

    We don't want Jesus nor any form of Christianity, we are not interested.
    Earlier you said that your family converted to Islam around 1700.

    Your ancestors were Orthodox not Muslims in the time of Hasan paša Predojević, deal with it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vojnik View Post
    "od nas hristianskih sinovi"

    Christian struggle against the Muslim occupiers.
    The orthodox people were Equal foreign occupiers in Croatian and Hungarian lands that Fail to the Ottomans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    Earlier you said that your family converted to Islam around 1700.

    Your ancestors were Orthodox not Muslims in the time of Hasan paša Predojević, deal with it!
    I don't have to deal with it, I don't care. Constantinople was Orthodox as well but it isn't anymore, people converted to Islam. Ecumenal Patriarchate is Dead and is serving 500 people nowdays.

    Islam is more dominant religion on Mediterranean, why would we Choose Christianity? Because of Germans? Russians? Those people are unrelated to us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    I don't have to deal with it, I don't care. Constantinople was Orthodox as well but it isn't anymore, people converted to Islam. Ecumenal Patriarchate is Dead and is serving 500 people nowdays.

    Islam is more dominant religion on Mediterranean, why would we Choose Christianity? Because of Germans? Russians? Those people are unrelated to us.
    Islam is imported to Europe by invaders Moors and Ottomans.
    You survived after Ottomans because of two things. First Orthodox people especially Serbs are more tolerant than Catholics, and second Austro-Hungary preserved you in Bosnia. In Spain Muslims disappeared due to reconquista.
    Bosnia had Orthodox majority for centuries, and Muslim became most numerous first time in history on census 1971 with 39.6%. Before that on census 1961 like for centuries before Orthodox Serbs were most numerous in Bosnia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demogr...rzegovina#1961

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    Islam is imported to Europe by invaders Moors and Ottomans.
    You survived after Ottomans because of two things. First Orthodox people especially Serbs are more tolerant than Catholics, and second Austro-Hungary preserved you in Bosnia. In Spain Muslims disappeared due to reconquista.
    Bosnia had Orthodox majority for centuries, and Muslim became most numerous first time in history on census 1971 with 39.6%. Before that on census 1961 like for centuries before Orthodox Serbs were most numerous in Bosnia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demogr...rzegovina#1961
    Islam is imported on Balkans by Greek Muslims. Mehmed, Husrev bey etc..

    Capital city of All Orthodox Christianity is Constantinople (Istanbul) and they throw away that religion and accepted Islam.

    We didn't survived because Orthodox tolerance, you are the most intolerant people, You survived because we did not want to exterminate Orthodox leftover from 16-19 century.

    The reason why we survived is because:

    1. Austria
    2. and because we were successful in 1990's war because of Turkey intervention in NATO

    The CORE of Orthodox world converted to Islam.

    There are more Orthodox Converts to Islam like 3 to 1 than Orthodox people themselves.
    There are more Greeks and Serbs in Turkey than on Balkans.

    You exist only because of Germans and Russians, if it was up to Byzantine Muslim converts you wouldn't exist.

    Don't ask me why we are Muslims, ask yourself "Why am I still Orthodox when majority converted to Islam"

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