Macedonia has no future

[Papastratosels26]

We have a very long past. Macedonia is older then Greece, Serbia, Albania, Bulgaria. We have the longest history.

I2a1b (I-M423).

[Papastratosels26]

Nah. They enjoy the tax rate too much:


https://www.nomoretax.eu/macedonia-h...-in-the-world/

That's why is a shitholes country?.

I look on the social media people from North Macedonia.
The houses, the clothes, the cars very cheap.


Yeap is a poor country.

[Bosniensis]

I2a1b (I-M423).

Oldest Haplogroup on Balkans = I2

So he is right.

[Vojnik]

I2a1b (I-M423).

I is the first haplogroup in Europe.

I am more indigenous then all of you J people.

[Bosniensis]

I is the first haplogroup in Europe.

I am more indigenous then all of you J people.

"we came from Poland" yes...

Anatolia -> Balkans -> France -> Poland > Balkans

We were in Greece when J people were speaking Armenian only.

[Vojnik]

That's why is a shitholes country?.

I look on the social media people from North Macedonia.
The houses, the clothes, the cars very cheap.


Yeap is a poor country.

Well smart ass. Greece isn't the most wealthiest country either, and you have all that coastline and tourism at your disposal. Lets not forget the last economic crisis in Greece that made your people starve.

[Vojnik]

"we came from Poland" yes...

Anatolia -> Balkans -> France -> Poland > Balkans

We were in Greece when J people were speaking Armenian only.

J-Less then 10,000 years in Europe.

I-More then 40,000 years in Europe.

Yet i'm the new comer. At very least 30,000 years difference between the two. The irony!

[Papastratosels26]

Well smart ass. Greece isn't the most wealthiest country either, and you have all that coastline and tourism at your disposal. Lets not forget the last economic crisis in Greece that made your people starve.

Your country is another Eastern European country (ex-communist).

Drugs, Prostitution..i fucked alot Eastern European women they are cheap..

[Aspar]

I2a1b (I-M423).

Excuse me being so direct and rude but you're the dumbest Greek I've encountered on this forum with all due respect...

I've told you once, if you ever quote people's DNA results be ready to show your results.

And all you do is some cheap talk about how Macedonia is a poor country etc. but just because you're from the "mighty" Greece doesn't make you anything more valuable than the rest of us especially since as an individual you are a dumb fuck...

And before thumbing me down like a bitch, come up with some other lie other than "I took a test but won't show my results to my enemies", hahah...

Your country is another Eastern European country (ex-communist).

Drugs, Prostitution..i fucked alot Eastern European women they are cheap..

I can pretty much bet you're a sore looser, jerking nine, ten times per day looking at those Eastern European women on your PC...

[MagnusDark]

J-Less then 10,000 years in Europe.

I-More then 40,000 years in Europe.

Yet i'm the new comer. At very least 30,000 years difference between the two. The irony!

I mean, it depends how you look at it? I can claim since ancient M417 was found in East Balkans to Ukraine that my ancestors were Dacians and Thracians, or Iranian and Sarmatian. However, if you ignore context and the data of specific branches, you become like bosniensis casting your rod for any fish in the sea.

All I2a1b in Slavs and elsewhere for instance, is majority under CTS10228, to a clade that is 2200ypb. Which means all living men today who are under CTS10228 have a common progenitor only in 200BC. There is no great diversity in this line, nor ancient splitting branches commonly found to make that narrative of yours work.

This earliest ancestor under CTS10228 never came from the Balkans. His extinct, non common mutation of a ancestor during the Mesolthic, Paleolithic was found in basal varieties in the Balkans. Before any such cultures of Paleo-Balkan people penetrated the area.

You're distantly related to some pre-indo-european primitives who had nothing to do with the ancient cultures you wet dream over. Just because ancient I2a1b is found there, doesn't mean there was a continual line of succession between then and now for I2a1b carriers. The truth is, modern I2a1b is a splinter line that went north in the ancient past and over time made their way back south with the Slavic tribes.

Their connection to ancient near extinct Balkan I2a1b is about as relevant as my connection to ancient Balkanic R1a-Z93, or M417. Hell, I am closer to all branches of R1a-M417 by MRCA than all modern I2 under CTS10228 is to ancient I2a1lb. It doesn't change the fact that my R1a and your I2a1b were brought by a northern cultures, be they Proto-Slavic, Baltic and or East Germanic.