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    A bit lighter and with less exotic types than Southern ones, but nothing significant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Septentrion View Post
    Yes indeed. Additionally, in the 5th century AD, groups of Romano-Brythons fleeing Anglo-Saxon invasion of the island of Britannia came and settled coastal northern Spain, particularly in the Asturias, but also in Galicia. This might have also influenced the frequency of red hair. As it did in France making Brittany and the immediate surrounding areas as the most redhead parts of that country. This also increased the R1b-L21 Y-DNA haplogroup which isn't common in this part of Europe, rather is typical of the British Isles and parts of Norway.
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    Yes, too.





    There´s another center of redhair in Udmurtia, Russia.
    Yes, but the Udmurts are a siberian-mongolian ethnic group(not caucasian european).
    It is worth mentioning that the ethnic group with more red hair are the Caucasian of northwestern Europe , but it is atypical to see them in other ethnic except the Udmurts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruggery View Post
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    Yes, but the Udmurts are a siberian-mongolian ethnic group(not caucasian european).
    It is worth mentioning that the ethnic group with more red hair are the Caucasian of northwestern Europe , but it is atypical to see them except in other ethnic except the Udmurts.
    Well Udmurts are caucasian-european people, uralic ones (as finns or estonians), have an slight mongoloid influence, but are still "white-european"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruggery View Post
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    Yes, but the Udmurts are a siberian-mongolian ethnic group(not caucasian european).
    It is worth mentioning that the ethnic group with more red hair are the Caucasian of northwestern Europe , but it is atypical to see them except in other ethnic except the Udmurts.
    Udmurts are Finno-Ugric native to the Perm region west of the Urals not Siberia. They are actually predominantly West Eurasian.The Khanty who are from east of the Urals are more East Eurasian, but even they have significant West-Eurasian admixture.

    Karin Mark found an average of 4% red hair among Udmurts with individual sampled varying from 1% to 7.3%.
    According to James F. Tocher‘s survey of Scottish schoolchildren red hair averages 5.3% and runs up to around 7% in Banff and East Aberdeenshire in Northeastern Scotland.

    The notion of the Udmurts being more frequently red-haired than the British Isles in completely false and based on low sample sizes by anthropologists like Malijew. However the frequency appears to be in the same general range as the British Isles with substantial samples.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duffmannn View Post
    Well Udmurts are caucasian-european people, uralic ones (as finns or estonians), have an slight mongoloid influence, but are still "white-european"
    Exactly but the Mongoloid influence in that ethnic group is higher than the Finns and Estonian averages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FountainOfSalmacis View Post
    If there’s a group that is different than the rest it should be the Basques.
    Not physically and genotypically they are ultra close to the rest.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ruggery View Post
    And there are more redheads because it is closer to Ireland

    However, in red hair gene it should be more common to see it in the north of Spain than in the south.
    The closer to Ireland the more common it is.
    The village with more redheads in Spain is found in Andalusia. 10% are carrot-heads.

    Good luck searching a village so all over Europe.

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    No, my Galician father is a wog, god damn it. My mother is much lighter (blue eyes, light brown kind of blondish hair) and she had a fully Canarian mom.

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