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Thread: Do whites of Sao Paulo look mostly italian or iberian?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethel View Post
    In my passify/guess thread, they assumed I was either Italian or French before Iberian, so I can only answer for myself. Anyway, good luck trying to fit 22 million people into two boxes.
    You don't have that Iberian vibe, that's for sure, more like generic Euro. It's not a question of trying to fit Paulistas/Paulistanos into two boxes, just asking which of the two main Euro elements in SP, Iberian or Italian, is more common among the phenotypes of their population, they are diverse, but the Iberian-Italian combo is their basic Euro stock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latinus View Post
    You don't have that Iberian vibe, that's for sure, more like generic Euro. It's not a question of trying to fit Paulistas/Paulistanos into two boxes, just asking which of the two main Euro elements in SP, Iberian or Italian, is more common among the phenotypes of their population, they are diverse, but the Iberian-Italian combo is their basic Euro stock.
    I don't think I'm THAT generic, I don't think I could pass anywhere north of belgium or east of albania.

    Anyway, besides existing an important lebanese and german influence, trying to figure out between Iberian/Italian is almost impossible because most of the "whites" in São Paulo are already a mix of these two components, which are very similar per se.

    Btw I just realized this thread is about São Paulo city, I thought it was the whole state, my bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethel View Post
    I don't think I'm THAT generic, I don't think I could pass anywhere north of belgium or east of albania.

    Anyway, besides existing an important lebanese and german influence, trying to figure out between Iberian/Italian is almost impossible because most of the "whites" in São Paulo are already a mix of these two components, which are very similar per se.

    Btw I just realized this thread is about São Paulo city, I thought it was the whole state, my bad.
    I think you fit in all Western Europe and also as non-white caucasoid, I meant "generic" because you don't give me a vibe specific to a certain country/ethnicity, not implying you pass in all Europe (which I'm not sure). Regarding the Iberian vs Italian component in SP: I agree with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenma de Pegasus View Post
    You are one of those italian phenotipes typical among white paulistas and a fair percentage of them can look like you. But as an average they are lighter and less east med looking.

    Some years ago, I saw some members trolling you saying you cant pass for white. But you certainly could pass as white and can fit from Buenos Aires, New York, Italy and Greece to even Turkey and Lebanon.
    Yes, he pass as white, but if you say that on anthroforums prepare to be "attacked" by a horde of pseudo anthropologists claiming you want to pass everyone as Euro looking, because you said Ancap can pass in Southern Europe. Many people in these forums lack common sense, think Euros are homogenous and that you need to look 100% similar to a certain ethnicity in order to pass there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latinus View Post
    Yes, he pass as white, but if you say that on anthroforums prepare to be "attacked" by a horde of pseudo anthropologists claiming you want to pass everyone as Euro looking, because you said Ancap can pass in Southern Europe. Many people in these forums lack common sense, think Euros are homogenous and that you need to look 100% similar to a certain ethnicity in order to pass there.
    Thats true, 5 years ago Roberto Grande was very troll with southern euros and at they same time he was very trolled too. I did not had an account in apricity at the time, but I remember some european users furious because he said he could pass in Europe. And Roberto Grande was right, I would say almost 10% of the population in some european places look less euro than him.

    In Sicily, phenotypes like him are even majority.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenma de Pegasus View Post
    You are one of those italian phenotipes typical among white paulistas and a fair percentage of them can look like you. But as an average they are lighter and less east med looking.

    Some years ago, I saw some members trolling you saying you cant pass for white. But you certainly could pass as white and can fit from Buenos Aires, New York, Italy and Greece to even Turkey and Lebanon.
    Yes, I do totally agree about B.A.
    I take the subway every day (it's impossible to go to downtown by car) and I see a lot of Robertos in every trip.
    I told this to him before, and also his parents look uber typical here.
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    Bump. This thread reminds of me "Spanish vs Italian ancestry in Argentina" ones that popped up many times on this forum.

    I do believe the Portuguese heritage is stronger than Italian in SP, and most of the Italian immigrants that went this state mixed with white colonials, who were/are mainly Iberian, genetically speaking. SP had a big Iberian component in colonial times, plus a significant Portuguese (and also Spanish, mainly Andalusian) post-colonial period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris96 View Post
    Nobody in brazil is white period. Your all mutts quit fantasizing.
    poor ignorant!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Latinus View Post
    Bump. This thread reminds of me "Spanish vs Italian ancestry in Argentina" ones that popped up many times on this forum.

    I do believe the Portuguese heritage is stronger than Italian in SP, and most of the Italian immigrants that went this state mixed with white colonials, who were/are mainly Iberian, genetically speaking. SP had a big Iberian component in colonial times, plus a significant Portuguese (and also Spanish, mainly Andalusian) post-colonial period.
    The Italian influence in São Paulo is both stronger and more recent than the Portuguese or Spanish.

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    I think that if I lived in Brazil, in Sao Paulo state I would feel more identified with the general population, because I'm mostly an Iberian/Italian mix (even though much more Iberian than Italian), but also, because is the Brazilian state that received more Spanish immigration.
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