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You are uninformed, I'm not going to waste my time debating genetics with you. Read about the subject first and then you can come with an opinion. One of the links I posted before to you has a compilation of 51 academic studies done in Brazil. If you're a serious debater you would know from where I got my numbers. So you can believe in whatever you want, it doesn't change genetic reality.Originally Posted by Lazio
I'll just adress two points:
I did not say they change census, I said they play a trick: they include all self-declared non-whites (''blacks and pardos'') as blacks. Not all pardos are substantially SSA or even SSA admixed. The genetic tests are showing that, some pardos are caboclos, castiços and in some cases even predominantly European. Including all of them as ''blacks'' is dishonest. Of course many pardos are indeed blacks who don't assume themselves to be blacks, but that's not a widespread phenomenon as they want us to believe. Or do you really think 50%+ of Brazilian population look like Anderson Silva?They don't change census... anyway, prove what you're repeating over and over (because people who spread that phrase about Brazil having the highest number of blacks out of Africa has to use census to cover what they say right? So you should prove what you're claiming that they do).
That's actually not true. Most white Brazilians tested so far scored minor amounts of Amerindian and/or SSA, even in the South. Especially the traditional upper classes who are living in Brazil since the 17th and 18th centuries at least. Average urban ''white'' Brazilian has around 5% SSA and 7% Amerindian. Of course there's individual variation and some could score much less or even 0%, but I'm talking about averages here.haha ha ha ha ha
I think it's more than that, the double at least. Many immigrants from last century actually didn't mixed up with non Europeans.
The only exceptions in Brazil are colono towns like Treze Tílias, Serafina Corrêa, Venda Nova do Imigrante, Gramado and similar places where most individuals are generally fully European. But these towns aren't the main demographic group even in the South. I was being optimist saying 10-12% of Brazilians are 100% European, I was including the cities in the countryside which have not been tested so far and could be mostly composed by full Europeans. Using only the data we have now even less than 10% of Brazil is composed by full Europeans. The whitest Brazilians are actually poor colonos, not the traditional elites.
You seem to be incapable of understanding that phenotype and other subjective social perceptions =/= genotype and true ancestry.
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