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    Hovig asks how influential the Armenians were in the Byzantine Empire. The short answer is ‘very’.


    Armenia provided some of Byzantium’s best soldiers (there were Armenian contingents fighting in Justinian’s armies), and some of its leading early generals (most famously Narses). The Byzantines- like the Romans- were always a heterogeneous people. What counted was not so much ethnic origin but culture. They would look down their noses if you dressed like a provincial or spoke with an accent, but inject a little schooling and your children could be mixing with the blue-bloods. The fact that Justin was a poor, uneducated peasant from the Balkans didn’t stop later emperors from claiming to be descended from his nephew Justinian, and the only reason the pathetic Zoë was allowed to rule as empress was because she was directly related to Basil I- a rough ‘hick’ from the country who murdered his way to the throne.

    But to the Byzantines, Armenia marked the limits of civilization (ie Hellenism). There were parts of Armenia where Greek never displaced the native tongue, and it was the spot where classical Greco-Roman culture faded and Persian influences (and later Arab) began. Christianity exerted a pull toward Constantinople, but the Armenians were always fiercely independent people. They were so stubborn that one emperor (Maurice) got fed up with dealing with them and made an agreement with the Persian Shah to deport the entire population. Fortunately for Armenia the Shah didn’t follow through, but imperial policy for the next several centuries concentrated on deporting Armenians as a way to control troublesome spots, repopulate others, or to bolster military numbers. Courtesy of the imperial government Armenians were settled in Cyprus, Calabria, Sicily, Crete, North Africa, and Sparta.

    In the 8th century, however, things began to change. The Arab advance had pushed the imperial army out of Armenia and a stream of refugees had come with it. An Armenian colony had already been founded in Pergamum and in 711 a member of the colony named Bardanes managed to overthrow the emperor and for two years reigned as the emperor Philippicus.

    This first experiment in Armenian emperors was not successful (Philippicus was quickly overthrown and had to serve as his successor’s footstool in the Hippodrome), but it was soon followed by a better one. The Bulgars were raiding Thrace, and to protect Constantinople’s flank the emperor Leo IV settled a few thousand Armenians right in their path. So many were taken prisoner back to Macedonia that the Armenians remaining in Thrace were given the nickname ‘Macedonian’. In 867 one of them- a man named Basil- made his way to Constantinople and killed off the reigning emperor (who was actually half-Armenian himself). Basil founded a new dynasty (the so-called “Macedonian” Dynasty) which ruled for the next 190 years. During that time Armenians dominated the government. The important generals, administrators, governors, bureaucrats, and at least one major historian (Genesius) were all Armenian. Even the usurper Romanus Lecapenus who briefly elbowed aside the legitimate ‘Macedonian’ emperor was an Armenian. It was a period of brilliance in nearly every field, and it witnessed a renaissance of learning overseen by three of the most educated men Byzantium ever produced- the Patriarch Photius, John the Grammarian, and Leo the Philosopher- all Armenians.

    Basil II- the last of the “Macedonian” emperors- did start an Armenian colony in Macedonia, but that turned out to be the apogee of both Armenian influence, and imperial strength. 46 years after Basil’s death a Turkish army engaged a Byzantine one in the little Armenian town of Manzikert and the disaster led to the permanent collapse of Byzantine power.

    As a final postscript I should point out that terms like ‘Armenian’ and ‘Byzantine’ are a little anachronistic. Today we tend to think in terms of nationalities or states- the term ‘Armenian’ for instance is tied both to ethnic origin and a citizen of the country of Armenia. This was not the case a thousand years ago. There was no Armenia, just a collection of princes, a population sharing common dialects, and vague, shifting borders. As for the Byzantines, their identity was tied to culture, traditions, religion, and civilization. In other words, if you crossed yourself from right to left, dipped your bread in olive oil, and knew your Homer, than you qualified as a Roman.

    If you had walked into the court of Basil II and asked him what he was, he would have given you the same answer as every one of his predecessors since Augustus. Roman.

    Then knowing Basil, you’d have your eyes put out.


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    Armenians of Byzantium (part 1)

    1) Maurice (Latin: Flavius Mauricius Tiberius Augustus, Armenian: Morick Oshakanatsi), reign: (582 – 602 ) A.D.


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    2) Philippikos Bardanes (Armenian: Vardan Pikick), reign: (711– 713) A.D.


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    3) Artavasdos, (Latin: Artabasdos, Armenian: Artavazd), reign: (741 – 743) A.D.

    coin of Artabasdos

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    4) Leo V the Armenian (Armenian: Levon Artsruni), reign: (813 – 820) A.D



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    5) Theodora (wife of Theophilos, Empress and regent of her son Michael III), reign: (829 – 867) A.D.



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    6) Michael III (Armenian from the mothers side), reign: (842 – 876) A.D.



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    7) Basil I (Armenian: Barseg Arsha), reign: (867 – 886) A.D.


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    8 ) Leo VI the Philosopher (Armenian: Levon Arshakuni), reign: (886 – 912) A.D.



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    9) Alexander, reign: (912 – 913) A.D.



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    10) Constantine VII Porphyrogennetos (“the Purple-born”), reign: (913 – 959) A.D.



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    11) Romanos I Lekapenos (Armenian: Romanos Vashtakian), reign: (920 – 944) A.D.



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    12) Romanos II, reign: (959 – 963) A.D.



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    13) Nikephoros II Phokas, reign: (963– 969) A.D.



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    14) John I Tzimiskes (Armenian: Hovhannes Chmushkik, born of the Kourkouas clan), reign: (969 – 976) A.D.





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    15) Basil II the Bulgar-slayer, reign: (976 – 1025) A.D.



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    16) Constantine VIII, reign: (1025 – 1028) A.D.



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    17) Romanos III Argyros, reign: (1028 – 1034) A.D.


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    18) Michael IV the Paphlagonian, reign: (1034 – 1041) A.D.



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    19) Michael V the Caulker, reign: (1041 – 1042) A.D.



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    20) Constantine IX Monomachos, reign: (1042 – 1055) A.D.



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    21) Theodora Porphyrogenita (Empress), reign: (1054 – 1056) A.D.



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    22) Michael VI Stratiotikos, reign: (1056 – 1057) A.D.


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    My island was liberated from the Arabs by an Armenian emperor . Need I say more?

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    Stop the Armenian claims, you sound as a Balkanian claiming the Roman Empire by using "Illyrian Emperors".

    Did the Armenians control Byzantium?
    No

    The short answer is ‘very’.
    Most of the so called Armenian Emperors and others were not even Armenians but Greeks who had some Armenian origin.

    Out of almost 100 Byzantine Emperors only 11 had some Armenian origin or were Armenians. That's the 10%.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catego...ntine_emperors


    The Byzantines- like the Romans- were always a heterogeneous people. What counted was not so much ethnic origin but culture.
    Nonsense. Eastern Romans of Greek origin and Eastern Roman citizens of Armenian origin were two separate groups of people. There are genetic and anthropological evidences to prove the Greekness of Greeks who have West Anatolian Greek roots. They have no relation to Armenians.



    Anthropology

    According to Aris Poulianos to the Proso-Asiatic(Caucaso-Armenoid and Anatolian-Iranoid/Orientalid) belong the Greeks of Trabzon(Pontians) and Erzerum and at a small degree the Greeks of Marioupolis and of Western Asia Minor.

    Page 140.

    Mainly Proso-Asians(Caucaso-Armenoids) are Greeks of Trabzon(Pontians) and Easterns (Anatolian-Iranoid/Orientalid) the Turkophone Greeks of Erzerum and at a small proportion the Western groups of Asia Minor.

    Pages 141-142

    https://issuu.com/stampalia/docs/katagogh_ellhnon/9


    Genetics

    According to the genetic site eupedia.com:

    Northern Greeks(Thrace & Macedonia) : 93,7 % European
    Central Greeks(Epirus & Thessaly) : 92,2 % European
    Southern Greeks(Sterea Hellas & Peloponnese) : 93,9 % European
    Eastern Greeks(Aegean islands & Ionia) : 91,7% European
    Cretan Greeks(Crete) : 91,1 % European
    All Greeks : 93,4 % European

    https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t99...6#post11562743


    Eastern Greeks (Aegean islands & Ionia) (158 samples)

    I included Ionian GREEKS with the rest of Greeks

    Their Y-DNA allmost perfectly resembles that of Aegean Greeks with whom I have classified them under Eastern Greeks (GREEKS not Greece). It also resembles average or mainstream Greek Y-DNA.

    in fact Ionian Greeks and those from the Aegean islands might be the purest of Greeks since Ionians definetely didn't mix with Turks (no Central or East Asian haplogroups detected) and Albanian or Slavic influence in Ionia is zero...allthough some native Anatolian ancestry can't be ruled out.

    Finally Ionian and other Anatolian Greeks are currently living in Greece and constitute a large section of the population...

    As I explained Ionians seem very mainstream Greeks like those from the Aegean...

    Their ancestors who lived under Ottoman Empire had a native Greek language, were Christian Orthodox and allways thought of themselves as Greeks (which is now proven by genetics).

    https://www.eupedia.com/forum/printt...4&pp=25&page=1


    Anatolian Greeks are close genetically to: 1)Aegean islanders, 2)south Italians, 3)mainland Greeks and 4)Balkanians according to the samples Sikeliot posted. They are not close with Turks or Armenians. Also they don't have any Central/East Asian admixture so they are not mixed with Turks at all.

    Sikeliot to a poster:

    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    You realize that only Pontians differ from the Greek mainstream genetically and that other "Anatolian" Greeks were genetically just like the natives, no?

    the Patriarch Photius, John the Grammarian, and Leo the Philosopher- all Armenians.

    Uncertain if he was Greek or partly Armenian.

    Photios I of Constantinople

    Certain scholars assert that Photios was, at least in part, of Armenian descentc[›] while other scholars merely refer to him as a "Greek Byzantine".

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photio...Constantinople


    Not an Armenian.

    John of Caesarea (theologian)

    John of Caesarea, also called John the Grammarian, was a sixth-century Byzantine priest and theologian. His biography is unknown

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_o...a_(theologian)


    Probaly of partly Armenian descent.

    Leo the Mathematician

    Leo was born in Thessaly, a cousin of the Patriarch of Constantinople, John the Grammarian. He was probably at least in part of Armenian descent

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leo_the_Mathematician


    all Armenians
    Lol, this Crusader Frank Lars Brownworth tries to Armenicize them all.


    As for the Byzantines, their identity was tied to culture, traditions, religion, and civilization. In other words, if you crossed yourself from right to left, dipped your bread in olive oil, and knew your Homer, than you qualified as a Roman.
    Nonsense. Eastern Romans of Greek origin and Eastern Romans of Armenian origin = two separate groups of the Empire.


    Armenians of Byzantium
    Not an Armenian.

    Maurice (emperor)

    Maurice was born in Arabissus in Cappadocia in 539. He is recorded to have been a native Greek speaker. Sources conflict over his birthplace, with most calling him a native Cappadocian Greek and the first emperor "from the race of the Greeks", while historian Evagrius Scholasticus records a descent from old Rome.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maurice_(emperor)


    Probably an Armenian-Assyrian/Syrian

    Leo V the Armenian

    Leo was the son of the patrician Bardas, who was of Armenian descent (according to Theophanes Continuatus, Leo was also of 'Assyrian',[2] that is Syrian,[3] descent).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leo_V_the_Armenian


    6) Michael III (Armenian from the mothers side),

    This does not makes him an Armenian but mixed Greek-Armenian.


    His ethnic origin is unknown

    Basil I

    His ethnic origin is unknown, and has been a subject of debate. During Basil's reign, an elaborate genealogy was produced that purported that his ancestors were not mere peasants, as everyone believed, but descendants of the Arsacid (Arshakuni) kings of Armenia, and also of Constantine the Great.[4][5] The Armenian historians Samuel of Ani and Stephen of Taron record that he hailed from the village of Thil in Taron.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basil_I


    Only some Armenian origin.

    Leo VI the Philosopher

    Born to the empress Eudokia Ingerina, Leo was either the illegitimate son of Emperor Michael III[2][3][4] or the second son of Michael's successor, Basil I the Macedonian.[5][6][7] Eudokia was both Michael III's mistress and Basil’s wife.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leo_VI_the_Wise


    Not an Armenian.

    9) Alexander, reign: (912 – 913) A.D.

    Alexander was the third son of Emperor Basil I and Eudokia Ingerina. Unlike his older brother Leo VI the Wise, his paternity was not disputed between Basil I and Michael III because he was born years after the death of Michael.[1] As a child, Alexander was crowned as co-emperor by his father around 879.[2]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexan...ntine_emperor)


    Only some Armenian origin.

    Constantine VII Porphyrogennetos

    He was the son of the emperor Leo VI and his fourth wife, Zoe Karbonopsina, and the nephew of his predecessor, the emperor Alexander.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantine_VII


    Only some Armenian origin.

    Romanos II

    Romanos II was a son of Emperor Constantine VII and Helena Lekapene

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanos_II


    Nikephoros II Phokas was Greek and not Armenian.

    Nikephoros II Phokas

    Nikephoros Phokas was born around 912 and belonged to a Cappadocian Greek family which had produced several distinguished generals, including Nikephoros' father Bardas Phokas, brother Leo Phokas, and grandfather Nikephoros Phokas the Elder, who had all served as commanders of the field army (domestikos tōn scholōn). His mother, whose name is unknown, was a member of another powerful Anatolian Greek clan, the Maleinoi.[1][2]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikephoros_II_Phokas


    Only some Armenian origin

    Basil II the Bulgar-slayer

    father Romanos II

    Mother Theophano

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basil_II


    Only some Armenian origin.

    Constantine VIII

    He was the younger son of Emperor Romanos II and Empress Theophano.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantine_VIII


    Not an Armenian.

    Romanos III Argyros

    Romanos Argyros, born in 968,[1] was the son of an unnamed member of the Argyros family.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanos_III_Argyros


    Not an Armenian.

    Michael IV the Paphlagonian

    Michael came from a family of Paphlagonian peasants.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michae...e_Paphlagonian


    Not an Armenian.

    Michael V Kalaphates

    Father Stephen, a caulker

    Mother Maria, a Paphlagonian

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_V_Kalaphates


    Greek not Armenian.

    Constantine IX Monomachos

    Father Theodosios Monomachos

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constantine_IX_Monomachos


    Only some Armenian origin.

    Theodora, daughter of Constantine VII

    She was a daughter of Constantine VII and Helena Lekapene. Her maternal grandparents were Romanos I Lekapenos and Theodora.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodo...onstantine_VII


    Not an Armenian.

    Michael VI Bringas

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_VI_Bringas



    Greeks of the Eastern Roman Empire used Armenians and cooperated with them but claims that Armenians controled the Empire coming both by the neo-Crusader Franks and chauvinist Armenians are hilarious!


    The West better tell us how the Jews have controlled all of their West for centuries until today.
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    Both Armenians and Balkaners controlled Roman Empire, along with Greeks.

    This is evidence that Balkaners controlled Roman Empire, similar is with Armenians.

    But we are all Half-Greeks or Half-Italians we aren't denouncing Greco-Romans.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PAPASTRATOSELS26 View Post
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    My island was liberated from the Arabs by an Armenian emperor . Need I say more?

    Greeks are known for offering their history to others(Egyptians, Semites, Northerners-Aryan invasion-, Balkanians-Scopjans, Albanians, Bulgarians-, Armenians and so on). They better get some ethnic consciousness and nationalist feelings because behaving like that they will destroy entirely what is left from Greece. Greece is like that today because of Greeks. As ancient Pericles said "People have the leaders they deserve to have".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    Both Armenians and Balkaners controlled Roman Empire, along with Greeks.

    This is evidence that Balkaners controlled Roman Empire, similar is with Armenians.

    But we are all Half-Greeks or Half-Italians we aren't denouncing Greco-Romans.

    Roman Empire(West and East)= Balkanian and Armenian.

    Same as with "Macedonian was not Greek" or "Epirus was Albanian".

    New slogans "Rome was Illyrian, bal bal Balkan", "Constantinopolis was Armenian, in fact it was called Constantnoupolitian" as well as "Africans and Barack Obama controled America", "America back to Africans"!
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    Conclusion:

    Crete was Egyptian and controlled by the Pharaohs, rest Greece was swarthy Pelasgian or Lebanese and controlled by some gypsies.

    Then Germanic/Slavic Aryans invaded like Nazis in WWII and controlled natives, like in new world with Iberian and Brit invaders over Indians.

    Epirus was Illyrian and Macedonia was not Greek.

    Then Greece controlled by the Armenian/Balkanian Byzantium for over a millennium.

    And the claims on the Greek history goes on.


    They came to teach us our Greek history.


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