Islam on Balkans

[Papastratosels26]

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[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

So how your ancestors became Christian while they are a Pagan? I'm sure they really liked that religion and wanted to become Christian without any questioning. How romantic. What did your ancestors feel when Illyria occupied by Romans? Or Slav tribes tortured by Romans? I'm sure they embraced with their conquerors. Because if they hadn't, Christianism couldn't be native to the Balkans because religion by occupier sword can't be called "native".

If it is not native to the Balkans, how I'm both Muslim and carrying Balkan DNA?

My ancestors asked Rome to be baptised, nobody forced them to be Christian unlike in Baltic region for example. And there is historical source about that. So yes, for us its native.

On this, a large army from Francia marched against them, and after they had fought one another for seven years, at last the Croats managed to prevail and destroyed all the Franks with their leader who was called Kotzilis. From that time they remained independent and autonomous, and they requested they holy baptism from the bishop of Rome, and bishops were sent who baptized them in the time of Porinos their prince.



You're mostly native to Balkan, but Islam isn't.

[Papastratosels26]

Since 1820 till today: Greece and Serbia have removed their Muslim populace by moving them to Turkey.

A good move population exanges.

[Bosniensis]

So how your ancestors became Christian while they are a Pagan? I'm sure they really liked that religion and wanted to become Christian without any questioning. How romantic. What did your ancestors feel when Illyria occupied by Romans? Or Slav tribes tortured by Romans? I'm sure they embraced with their conquerors. Because if they hadn't, Christianism couldn't be native to the Balkans because religion by occupier sword can't be called "native".

If it is not native to the Balkans, how I'm both Muslim and carrying Balkan DNA?

Mehmed II Fatih was Serbo-Greek-Turk admixted like Pomaks and he was recognized as Emperor of Romans along with other titles by Ecumenal Patriarchate of Constantinople namely Gennadios II

He proclaimed Islam as the NEW STATE RELIGION.

And I don't have to talk with Catholics or Germans what do they think about Islam on Balkans or Anatolia for they were always hostile to us.

[Aspirin]

Islam is native to the Balkans. Ottoman Empire was part of European Civilization.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

One day subhuman Bosniensis will be expelled from former Croatian capital he currently reside in, and that will be justice.

[Bosniensis]

A good move population exanges.

Well a Bad move for you, for your people are predominantly Muslims today in Turkey.

Muslim Greeks in Turkey = 15-20 mil

Orthodox Greeks in Greece = 9 mil

[Papastratosels26]

One day subhuman Bosniensis will be expelled from former Croatian capital he currently reside in, and that will be justice.

[Kaspias]

My ancestors asked Rome to be baptised, nobody forced them to be Christian unlike in Baltic region for example. And there is historical source about that. So yes, for us its native.

On this, a large army from Francia marched against them, and after they had fought one another for seven years, at last the Croats managed to prevail and destroyed all the Franks with their leader who was called Kotzilis. From that time they remained independent and autonomous, and they requested they holy baptism from the bishop of Rome, and bishops were sent who baptized them in the time of Porinos their prince.



You're mostly native to Balkan, but Islam isn't.

You remind me of the Turks. They are also thinking they became Muslim by peace, Arabs just offered them to become Muslim and they accepted gently. They also have various sources for this.

All of my known ancestors lived in the Balkans. They fought in the Balkan Wars. They died in Balkans. They created cities in the Balkans. They were Muslims. I'm Balkan-born and i'm Muslim. Can you explain how a person who all of his ancestors comes from the same region for centuries and they all have the same religion with that person, can be native to these lands but his religion can't? Isn't it utter nonsense?

Ottoman Empire won the right to enter the European Council.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Paris_(1856)

On the other hand, "The sick, old man of Europe", not Middle-East. The main driving force of the Ottoman Empire were Balkans, not Anatolia.

[Dušan]

Islam is the second strongest religion after Orthodox Christianity on Balkans.

Before Orthodox Uprisings it was Primary religion for several hundred years.

The majority of Balkan muslims were Greeks who were later after 1920 exchanged for Anatolian Orthodox population.

After them 2nd place are South Slavs then Albanians as unique group.

Since 1820 till today: Greece and Serbia have removed their Muslim populace by moving them to Turkey, while
territories like Bosnia, Albania kept their muslim populace since they were majority.

Muslims never were majority population in Balkans.
They were minority in Serbia, as well in Bosnia, until census 1971. when their number surpasses number of Orthodox Serbs in Bosnia.

As for Greek-Turkey population exchange, 355.000 Muslims moved from Greece to Turkey.
It is significant lower than number of Greeks that were expelled from Smyrna and surrounding greek regions.

The 1923 population exchange between Greece and Turkey (Greek: Ἡ Ἀνταλλαγή, romanized: I Antallagí, Ottoman Turkish: مبادله‎, romanized: Mübâdele) stemmed from the "Convention Concerning the Exchange of Greek and Turkish Populations" signed at Lausanne, Switzerland, on 30 January 1923, by the governments of Greece and Turkey. It involved at least 1.6 million people (1,221,489 Greek Orthodox from Asia Minor, Eastern Thrace, the Pontic Alps and the Caucasus, and 355,000 Muslims from Greece), most of whom were forcibly made refugees and de jure denaturalized from their homelands.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popula...ece_and_Turkey