Just how Slavic is Eastern Germany ?

[Kostej]

Well it goes both ways obviously.

[Peterski]

Basically East Germany, West Poland, Czechia, East Austria, Slovakia, Hungary and Slovenia are german-slav mixed.

West Poland* and Sudetenland in Czechia are inhabited mainly by people from further east after WW2:

V. stands for Voivodeship:



And this map shows the distribution of ethnic Czechs in the early 1900s, west and north was German:



*Lubusz (Zielona Góra), West Pomerania (Szczecin & Koszalin), Lower Silesia (Wrocław) voivodeships.

[PostOak1]

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[PostOak1]

Germany has more L1029 than anyone else, but it is definitely Slavic originated.


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[Roy]

West Poland* and Sudetenland in Czechia are inhabited mainly by people from further east after WW2:

V. stands for Voivodeship:



And this map shows the distribution of ethnic Czechs in the early 1900s, west and north was German:



*Lubusz (Zielona Góra), West Pomerania (Szczecin & Koszalin), Lower Silesia (Wrocław) voivodeships.

Greater Poland (Wielkopolska) has a German / Germanic admixture especially some subethnic / ethnographic groups though and they are Western Poles. And those Germans who maintained their German identity usually moved away after the II WW.


Bambrzy (Poznańskie Bambry, German: Posener Bamberger) are Poles who are partly descended from Germans who moved from the area of Bamberg (Upper Franconia, Germany) to villages surrounding Poznań, Poland. They settled in villages which had been destroyed during the Great Northern War and the subsequent epidemic of cholera, including:

1719 in Luboń
1730 in Dębiec, Jeżyce, Winiary and Bonin
1746–1747 in Rataje and Wilda
1750–1753 in Jeżyce and Górczyn
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bambrzy

And Olędrzy of often Dutch origin, over the time they have assimilated into larger Slavic ethnos.


Olędrzy (Polish: [ɔˈlɛndʐɨ], Singluar form: Olęder; German: Holländer, Hauländer) were people, often of Dutch or German ancestry, who lived in settlements in Poland organized under a particular type of law.

The term Olędrzy has been used to describe two related, but slightly different, groups of settlers. First, it describes settlers in Poland from Friesland and the rest of the Netherlands,[1] most often of the Mennonite faith, who in the 16th and 17th centuries founded villages in Royal Prussia, along the Vistula River and its tributaries, in Kuyavia, Mazovia and Greater Poland. They possessed knowledge of flood control, and a well-developed agrarian culture. At that time, they were the wealthiest group of peasants. They maintained personal freedom, and their own religion and beliefs. After the First Partition of Poland, some of them emigrated to Ukraine.

Second, in a later period (up to the middle of the 19th century), the term Olędrzy (German: Hauländer) was used to describe settlers of different ethnicities (principally Germans and Poles, at times Scots, Czechs, and Hungarians), who benefited from certain privileges resulting from the law established by the Frisian and Dutch colonists (such as personal freedom,[Note 1] long-term or perpetual use of land, and the possibility of transmitting land to heirs). The most important characteristic, however, was collective responsibility of the entire Olęder community for its obligations toward the land owner and the specific character of the community's self-government.[3] Thus, the distinguishing characteristics of an Olęder settlement are legal, and not ethnic, religious or economic. Consequently, the word Olęder is not synonymous with "Dutch settler."

According to studies conducted so far, from 1527/1547 to 1864 on the terrain of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, later divided into three parts in the Polish partitions, at least 1700 Olęder settlements were established. Of those, in at least 300 settlements, the settlers were ethnic Dutch.[4] Traces of these settlements are still visible in village architecture, the physical layout of villages, and in the names of villages (Holendry, Olędry, Olendry, etc.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ol%C4%99drzy





And 18th century Mennonite farm in Żuławki.

[Bosniensis]

"Just how Serbian is Eastern Germany?"

correct please

[Papastratosels26]

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[Peterski]

Greater Poland (Wielkopolska) has a German / Germanic admixture especially some subethnic / ethnographic groups though and they are Western Poles.

I know I'm from this region and I have Germanic admixture but DNA tests read it as Danish.

It is actually from Goths and Vandals/Lugians (Celto-Germanic) in the Iron Age, not Germans.

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By the way also a lot of people from Greater Poland settled in Lubusz Voivodeship after WW2.

[Floralys]

The East Germans (and the Prussians before WWII) are Germanized Slavs, the Slavs who lived there did not disappear because of the Germanic settlers, the Germanic settlers have mixed with the local population.

Just as the Anglo-Saxons mixed with the Celts (we know today that the English have more Celtic blood than Germanic)

The same thing for the Arabs when they conquered North Africa, they imposed their language, but the natives did not disappear, they adopted the Arabic language, but their genetics remains Berber

You have to be very, very stupid to believe that the Slavs (obrodites, polabians slavs) have disappeared, the conqueror imposes his language, but often they mix with the natives, that's how it is in all corners of the globe.

Another example would be the Ottoman Turks, they come from Central Asia, they have imposed their language and culture on the Anatolians, we know that the Turkish Anatolians have less than 10% of real Turkic blood, the Turkic oghuz conquerors were a minority, they just imposed their language, the Turks who live today in Turkey, have the same genetics as the Hittites of several thousand years ago.

Almost all East German cities have Slavic names (same in Austria)

The Slavic genetic heritage is even greater among Austrians.

and the Germans know it, the Franco-German channel (arte) has produced a documentary on it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaMQAeRDHwM

[Roy]

I know I'm from this region and I have Germanic admixture but DNA tests read it as Danish.

It is actually from Goths and Vandals/Lugians (Celto-Germanic) in the Iron Age, not Germans.

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By the way also a lot of people from Greater Poland settled in Lubusz Voivodeship after WW2.

Yes it is true, and also in some villages close to Wielkopolskie Voivodeship in Lower Silesian voivodeship it is heavily present. I know one girl who uses / knows some odd words & customs that are not known me but are ingrained elsewhere and she's not a student from Poznań, Krotoszyn etc and her grandparents have been living there long before she was born.

And that German thing is pretty much minor, except for German-speaking minority in Upper Silesia. And there is indeed yet another older than any ethnicities in our modern understanding - ''Germanic'' layer that you raised here.