Cretan Turk Gedmatch results - 3

[Kaspias]

There are two villages/town of Cretan Muslims in Syria that were settled there(prior to ww1)
One can draw safer conclusions by testing those people. Ironically they speak the purest Cretan Greek you ll find in the world. Obviously they also speak Arabic by now.

As for their genetics, they must be like similar case like with the Turkish Cypriots. Local converts to Islam and in all likelihood mainly or a great portion of them from the catholic community of Crete that was persecuted. Similar with Turkish Cypriots in that too.

Although i'm not very experienced on Cretan Turks and Turk Cypriots, the results i have seen so far were always slightly different than Greeks which points out they are not just basic converts but have legit Turk admixture. There may be exceptions too.



Cretan Muslims constitute 60% of the population, numbering about 3,000. Records suggest that the community left Crete between 1866 and 1897, on the outbreak of the last Cretan uprising against the Ottoman Empire, which ended the Greco-Turkish War of 1897. Sultan Abdul Hamid II provided Cretan Muslim families who fled the island with refuge on the Levantine coast. The new settlement was named Hamidiye after the sultan. The community is very much concerned with maintaining its culture. The knowledge of the spoken Greek language is remarkably good and their contact with their historical homeland has been possible by means of satellite television and relatives.[2]

Today, the Grecophone residents identify themselves as Cretan Muslims, and not as Cretan Turks as is the case with some in Tripoli.[3]


I wonder reason of this. On the other hand, major population of Cretan Turks migrated to the Western Anatolia, Aegean Coast. And mixed with the Turks who live there, this sample is 1/2 Cretan Turk and 1/2 Aegean Turk if you interested:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 26.54
2 West_Asian 22.08
3 West_Med 17.25
4 North_Atlantic 10.53
5 Siberian 7.97
6 Baltic 7.21
7 Red_Sea 4.09
8 South_Asian 1.6
9 East_Asian 1.39
10 Northeast_African 0.67
11 Amerindian 0.42
12 Oceanian 0.25

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Turkish 11.23
2 Central_Greek 12.62
3 East_Sicilian 13.22
4 South_Italian 13.42
5 Italian_Abruzzo 14.7
6 Ashkenazi 15.22
7 Sephardic_Jewish 16.27
8 West_Sicilian 16.53
9 Greek_Thessaly 16.55
10 Cyprian 16.61
11 Azeri 16.95
12 Lebanese_Muslim 17.37
13 Algerian_Jewish 17.46
14 Italian_Jewish 17.85
15 Syrian 18.33
16 Tunisian_Jewish 18.61
17 Libyan_Jewish 19.22
18 Assyrian 19.99
19 Armenian 20.53
20 Georgian_Jewish 20.54

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 56.9% Algerian_Jewish + 43.1% Nogay @ 4.65
2 58.9% Sephardic_Jewish + 41.1% Nogay @ 4.99
3 56.4% Italian_Jewish + 43.6% Nogay @ 5
4 64.1% South_Italian + 35.9% Nogay @ 5.26
5 55.4% Tunisian_Jewish + 44.6% Nogay @ 5.66
6 58.5% Cyprian + 41.5% Nogay @ 5.8
7 70.7% South_Italian + 29.3% Afghan_Turkmen @ 5.91
8 54.5% Libyan_Jewish + 45.5% Nogay @ 6.05
9 62.2% South_Italian + 37.8% Turkmen @ 6.15
10 64.3% Central_Greek + 35.7% Turkmen @ 6.4
11 62.8% East_Sicilian + 37.2% Turkmen @ 6.41
12 65.5% Cyprian + 34.5% Afghan_Turkmen @ 6.45
13 59.3% Algerian_Jewish + 40.7% Balkar @ 6.51
14 65.4% East_Sicilian + 34.6% Nogay @ 6.54
15 60.2% Algerian_Jewish + 39.8% Kabardin @ 6.56
16 62.7% Turkish + 37.3% Greek_Thessaly @ 6.7
17 63.3% Ashkenazi + 36.7% Balkar @ 6.74
18 69.1% Turkish + 30.9% Tuscan @ 6.75
19 73.9% Turkish + 26.1% North_Italian @ 6.79
20 59.6% Italian_Jewish + 40.4% Kabardin @ 6.84


MDLP K23b

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 37.41
2 European_Early_Farmers 16.66
3 Near_East 10.14
4 South_Central_Asian 9.95
5 European_Hunters_Gatherers 8.8
6 Tungus-Altaic 6.03
7 Ancestral_Altaic 2.37
8 North_African 2.29
9 Arctic 2.17
10 Paleo_Siberian 1.74
11 East_Siberian 1.19
12 Melano_Polynesian 0.67
13 Archaic_African 0.58

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Turk_Balikesir ( ) 5.16
2 Turk_Aydin ( ) 7.28
3 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain ( ) 7.43
4 Cretan ( ) 10.39
5 Gagauz ( ) 10.42
6 Bulgarian ( ) 10.51
7 Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) 10.69
8 Macedonian ( ) 10.7
9 Ashkenazi_Jew ( ) 10.74
10 Greek_Thessaloniki ( ) 11.14
11 Syrian_Jew ( ) 11.17
12 Turk_Istanbul ( ) 11.24
13 Romanian_Jew ( ) 11.53
14 Turk_Adana ( ) 11.78
15 Central_Greek ( ) 11.8
16 Ashkenazi ( ) 11.89
17 Greek_Thessaly ( ) 11.89
18 Greek ( ) 11.9
19 Greek_Northwest ( ) 11.97
20 Greek_Macedonia ( ) 12.06

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 78.6% Greek_Smyrna ( ) + 21.4% Karakalpak ( ) @ 3.47
2 76.7% Greek_Smyrna ( ) + 23.3% Turkmen_Afghan ( ) @ 3.49
3 72.1% Greek_Smyrna ( ) + 27.9% Crimean_Tatar_Step ( ) @ 3.62
4 91.1% Turk_Aydin ( ) + 8.9% Sardinian ( ) @ 3.65
5 73% Turk_Aydin ( ) + 27% Italian_Abruzzo ( ) @ 3.79
6 73% Greek_Islands ( ) + 27% Turkmen_Afghan ( ) @ 3.82
7 76.6% Turk_Aydin ( ) + 23.4% Italian_Tuscan ( ) @ 3.84
8 68.6% Greek_Islands ( ) + 31.4% Turkmen_Uzbekistan ( ) @ 3.87
9 78.8% Turk_Aydin ( ) + 21.2% Italian_Piedmont ( ) @ 3.88
10 65.3% Turk_Aydin ( ) + 34.7% Sicilian_West ( ) @ 3.92
11 81.8% Greek_Smyrna ( ) + 18.2% Kazakh ( ) @ 3.94
12 82.7% Turk_Aydin ( ) + 17.3% Italian_Bergamo ( ) @ 3.97
13 77.4% Greek_Smyrna ( ) + 22.6% Uzbek ( ) @ 4.08
14 86.2% Turk_Aydin ( ) + 13.8% Spanish_Baleares_IBS ( ) @ 4.12
15 70.1% Turk_Aydin ( ) + 29.9% Sicilian_Trapani ( ) @ 4.17
16 83.1% Greek_Smyrna ( ) + 16.9% Kyrgyz_Bishkek ( ) @ 4.21
17 83.7% Greek_Smyrna ( ) + 16.3% Kyrgyz ( ) @ 4.23
18 81.2% Cretan ( ) + 18.8% Turkmen_Afghan ( ) @ 4.23
19 73% Greek_Smyrna ( ) + 27% Turkmen_Uzbekistan ( ) @ 4.25
20 93.4% Turk_Aydin ( ) + 6.6% Basque_Spanish ( ) @ 4.26

[Lucas]

Their region in syria is called alhamidya.Many of them cretan turks also live in libya, on the coast of the benghazi area apparently.

Thanks, I didn't know about it. I wonder if Syrian and Libyan wars destroy those communities.