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    Quote Originally Posted by tekken999 View Post
    Except you can't refute the fact that Europe has socialist policies which may not define it as socialist as a whole in the strict definition but which are still integral to European countries. The fact the government owns a health care system which redistributes health care to it's citizens off of their taxes makes it a socialist program and that fits the definition
    That shows that you must be completely retarded. You have been listening too much FOX. Even the French healthcare system isn't state owned but consists of a couple of large healthcare insurance firms which offer general coverage. There are very few countries with any form of state healthcare and universal health care and state healthcare are not the same. The Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg, Germany, Switzerland, Austria and most others btw either just have private insurance (or a mixture of public mutual assurance funds and private) and privately providers interlocking into a system of general healthcare paid for by your insurance as well as taxation. The same goes.. goes for most other countries maybe apart from the UK and the Scandinavian countries (and there too there are private options). There is no Medicare as you have it in Europe. Mind you: the hospitals and doctors are all private individuals and work for profit wherever you go in Europe - it's just that the insurance system covers everybody.



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    Quote Originally Posted by tekken999 View Post
    Except you can't refute the fact that Europe has socialist policies which may not define it as socialist as a whole in the strict definition but which are still integral to European countries. The fact the government owns a health care system which redistributes health care to it's citizens off of their taxes makes it a socialist program and that fits the definition
    What's your point? Any human society that has ever existed had redistribution policies. That's point of having a society. If you're not interested in that you can always live by yourself in the woods.

    Btw, if you decide to live in the woods, make sure you leave behind all technology. All modern technology was created by pooling resources together through redistribution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker View Post
    That shows that you must be completely retarded. You have been listening too much FOX. Even the French healthcare system isn't state owned but consists of a couple of large healthcare insurance firms which offer general coverage. There are very few countries with any form of state healthcare and universal health care and state healthcare are not the same. The Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg, Germany, Switzerland, Austria and most others btw either just have private insurance (or a mixture of public mutual assurance funds and private) and privately providers interlocking into a system of general healthcare paid for by your insurance as well as taxation. The same goes.. goes for most other countries maybe apart from the UK and the Scandinavian countries (and there too there are private options). There is no Medicare as you have it in Europe. Mind you: the hospitals and doctors are all private individuals and work for profit wherever you go in Europe - it's just that the insurance system covers everybody.
    Universal healthcare also implies that citizens are mandated to have healthcare whether private or public. https://www.thebalance.com/universal...h-care-4156211 Read this carefully then take a cheese wheel and shove it up your ass

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    Quote Originally Posted by ixulescu View Post
    What's your point? Any human society that has ever existed had redistribution policies. That's point of having a society. If you're not interested in that you can always live by yourself in the woods.

    Btw, if you decide to live in the woods, make sure you leave behind all technology. All modern technology was created by pooling resources together through redistribution.
    Just like amazon, apple, Uber, and Facebook right? Oh wait....

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    Quote Originally Posted by tekken999 View Post
    Universal healthcare also implies that citizens are mandated to have healthcare whether private or public. https://www.thebalance.com/universal...h-care-4156211 Read this carefully then take a cheese wheel and shove it up your ass
    And ? It sure beats giving the costs to the rest of society or letting someone die in the gutter (or commit crime in order to get healthcare like in America) because they can't afford healthcare. In Dutch we have an expression: cheap means expensive. Because your system doesn't cover in all the eventual costs so people, in reality, pay much more than we do for the necessities (and you can even see that when you go shopping as you have to pay your taxes on top of what you pay in the shop - while for us it's already included.



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    Quote Originally Posted by tekken999 View Post
    Just like amazon, apple, Uber, and Facebook right? Oh wait....
    All the internet businesses depend on the internet infrastructure, which was originally created as a defense project, itself financed with money from taxes. Sure, all these companies love to depend on infrastructure built on someone else's money, but none of them likes to pay any taxes. Fuck them all! and the idiots who support these practices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ixulescu View Post
    All the internet businesses depend on the internet infrastructure, which was originally created as a defense project, itself financed with money from taxes. Sure, all these companies love to depend on infrastructure built on someone else's money, but none of them likes to pay any taxes. Fuck them all! and the idiots who support these practices.
    I support everyone doing tax evasion, sadly only the rich can do it without being noticed, bet your ass I wouldnt pay taxes if I could avoid it.

    Only retards and lazy losers need a social state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ixulescu View Post
    All the internet businesses depend on the internet infrastructure, which was originally created as a defense project, itself financed with money from taxes. Sure, all these companies love to depend on infrastructure built with my money, but none of them likes to pay any taxes. Fuck them all! and the idiots who support these practices.
    Yep. Let's not forget that the internet was once known as ARPA - (Defense) Advanced Research Projects Agency. Which, guess what, was set up by order of President Eisenhower. Which leads me to another piece of American infrastructure ? Your highway network. That's the very same dude for you.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Teutone View Post
    I support everyone doing tax evasion, sadly only the rich can do it without being noticed, bet your ass I wouldnt pay taxes if I could avoid it.

    Only retards and lazy losers need a social state.
    haha, the superrich love to see the support from millions of idiots like you, dreaming that one day they'll become rich. Wake the fuck up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ixulescu View Post
    haha, the superrich love to see the support from millions of idiots like you, dreaming that one day they'll become rich. Wake the fuck up.
    Feel the Bern

    Rich are rich because they have skills that got them rich.

    Go back to Romania and call back communism

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