Is Pope Francisco a socialist?

[Mortimer]

There is Christian socialism and Christian communism too. There are leftist christians. I think Pope Franscisco is and it is closer to true christianity taught by Jesus Christ.

[renaissance12]

A catholic is not "obliged" to agree with the Pope unless he is speaking ex cathedra (Papal infallibility ..or Dogma ) . ...until now the pope Francis has never spoken ex cathedra..


The "last Dogma of the Pope Pius XII on 1 November 1950 - Assumption of Mary -( almost all dogmas regard theology )

The Catholic Church teaches as dogma that the Virgin Mary "having completed the course of her earthly life, was assumed body and soul into heavenly glory


http://www.traditionalcatholicpriest...tholic-church/


Jesus was not a socialist... He fled to Egypt with his family .. Jesus and his father Josheph were specialized technical workers...( middle class )

Jesus and his father weren't lazy and they did not want to be maintained/supported by the Egyptians

It is not a surprise that the Pope loves the last ones .. but don't forget that he also says that the last ones must put in a commitment to improve themselves ...or in better words they have to work to sustain themself.... but first give them a chance

[Deneb]

According to some posters Pope Francisco is the Antichrist:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...es-for-a-drive

[Mortimer]

A catholic is not "obliged" to agree with the Pope unless he is speaking ex cathedra (Papal infallibility ..or Dogma ) . ...until now the pope Francis has never spoken ex cathedra..


The "last Dogma of the Pope Pius XII on 1 November 1950 - Assumption of Mary -( almost all dogmas regard theology )

The Catholic Church teaches as dogma that the Virgin Mary "having completed the course of her earthly life, was assumed body and soul into heavenly glory


http://www.traditionalcatholicpriest...tholic-church/


Jesus was not a socialist... He fled to Egypt with his family .. Jesus and his father Josheph were specialized technical workers...( middle class )

Jesus and his father weren't lazy and they did not want to be maintained/supported by the Egyptians

It is not a surprise that the Pope loves the last ones .. but don't forget that he also says that the last ones must put in a commitment to improve themselves ...or in better words they have to work to sustain themself.... but first give them a chance

I agree with the pope that we must put commitments to improve its reasonable

[Sockorer]

Socialism/Communism have been unambiguously denounced by the Church. The rejection of private property, egalitarianism, secularism and state atheism, atheistic-materialism, class struggle, revolution are all at odds with Christian social teaching.

[Dragoon]

Is Pope Francis a socialist?

Its difficult to answer because dont know enough about him (and I have read quite a bit). Some sources say he was close to Liberation theology, but others say it was denounced.

This source says he isnt critical private ownership but he does look down on hoarding. Also maybe concerned about rich-poor gap.

https://www.catholic.org/news/hf/fai...y.php?id=51986

The socialism which the Catholic Church has a problem with is the atheistic, materialist, class struggle, anti-private property type.

However there were some forms of Christian or ethical socialism which might be acceptable to some in religion (this was non marxist socialist).

Yet here is John Paul 2 on capitalism:

Turning to capitalism and in the context of affirming the efficiency of "the free market," John Paul writes:

We have seen that it is unacceptable to say that the defeat of so-called "real socialism" leaves capitalism as the only model of economic organization. It is necessary to break down the barriers and monopolies which leave so many countries on the margins of development and to provide all individuals and nations with the basic conditions which will enable them to share in development.1

Again, he asks whether "capitalism should be the goal of the countries now making efforts to rebuild their economy and society?" John Paul's answer is:

The answer is obviously complex. If by capitalism is meant an economic system which recognizes the fundamental and positive role of business, the market, private property and the resulting responsibility for the means of production as well as free human creativity in the economic sector, then the answer is certainly in the affirmative even though it would perhaps be more appropriate to speak of a business economy, market economy, or simply free economy. But if by capitalism is meant a system in which freedom in the economic sector is not circumscribed within a strong juridical framework which places it at the service of human freedom in its totality and which sees it as a particular aspect of that freedom, the core of which is ethical and religious, then the reply is certainly negative.2

Here the previous Pope:

the Pope once more made clear in a 1993 address in Latvia his criticism of both communism and capitalism:

Besides, Catholic social doctrine is not a surrogate for capitalism. In fact, although decisively condemning “socialism,” the church, since Leo XIII’s Rerum Novarum, has always distanced itself from capitalistic ideology, holding it responsible for grave social injustices (cf. Rerum Novarum, 2)

http://www.loyno.edu/jsri/catholicism-and-capitalism


My understanding is that the Catholic Church has had several historic flavors of its economic policy.

In the past the church has been supportive of distributism (something I have sympathy for).
Keep in mind this is not re-distributism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributism

It views both capitalism and socialism as equally flawed and exploitative, and it favors economic mechanisms such as small-scale cooperatives and family businesses, and large-scale antitrust regulations.

There was also corporatism. Historically it was supported by reactionaries.

Corporatism is a political ideology which advocates the organization of society by corporate groups, such as agricultural, labour, military, scientific, or guild associations on the basis of their common interests.[1][2][3]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporatism


Finally wikipedia says:

Catholic social teaching is distinctive in its consistent critiques of modern social and political ideologies both of the left and of the right: liberalism, communism, feminism,[4][5] atheism,[6] socialism,[7] fascism, capitalism,[7] and Nazism[8] have all been condemned, at least in their pure forms, by several popes since the late nineteenth century.

Catholic social doctrine has always tried to find an equilibrium between respect for human liberty, including the right to private property and subsidiarity, and concern for the whole society, including the weakest and poorest.[9]