Do you consider the Caucasus to be European?

[Bloodeagle]

I don't know too much about this area, I know the geographers consider Mount Elbrus to be the highest peak in Europe, but map makers do not take culture into account when subdividing the continents. So I question whether or not this region is European in a cultural context, but I cannot give an educated opinion other than what I have read on Wikipedia, which states that:

Throughout its history, the Caucasus was usually incorporated into the Iranian world. At the beginning of the 19th century, the Russian Empire conquered the territory from the Qajars

[Stars Down To Earth]

Efim, always so cheerful and positive in every thread.

[Hess]

Queer.

he has a point, though- we let can't our dicks decide who is European and who isn't.

[Dario Argento]

Georgians are 70% + West Asian and Armenians are about half.. I don't think they are half Northern European though.

I'm talking about Northern Caucasians. Adygei, Chechens are around 45% North euro.

[Sikeliot]

I'm talking about Northern Caucasians. Adygei, Chechens are around 45% North euro.

Oh. You're probably right. When I think Caucasus I usually assume someone means Armenia, Georgia, and Azerbaijan.

[Beorn]

he has a point, though- we let can't our dicks decide who is European and who isn't.

It didn't fail us in the past.

[Sikeliot]

It didn't fail us in the past.

If you don't consider bringing millions of mestizos and mulattoes into the world "failing", then you're correct.

[R4ge]

I wouldn't consider them Middle Eastern. They are closer to Europe in many ways than they are to true Middle Eastern nations such as Lebanon or Iraq. Their identities are often debated since they are former Soviet republics and lie geographically in Asia. I think they are as European as North Africans are Middle Eastern. Just countries that form a part of a "greater" region, so Georgia and Armenia would fit in "greater Europe" but not "Europe" just as Morocco and Algeria would fit in the "greater Middle East" even though they are in North Africa and since the "Middle East" is a term used to describe Anatolia, the Levant, Mesopotamia, Arabian peninsula and Persia. Armenians are genetically very close to Turks and Georgians have a high West Asian component, culturally they are different and more similar to Serbs. Azerbaijan on the other hand might be considered part of the greater Middle East because of their Iranian and Turkish influence.

[Dario Argento]

Oh. You're probably right. When I think Caucasus I usually assume someone means Armenia, Georgia, and Azerbaijan.

I'd say Georgians are the purest South Caucasians. Azerbaijan has always had strong ties to Iran, and Armenia to Anatolia. However Northern Caucasus are mostly isolates, as their languages show. Some sort of Asian basques they are.

[Beorn]

If you don't consider bringing millions of mestizos and mulattoes into the world "failing", then you're correct.

Incorrect.



Correct.