View Poll Results: What SE Asians have the most Caucasoid/ West Eurasian admixture?

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  • Burmese

    5 27.78%
  • Thai

    1 5.56%
  • Lao

    0 0%
  • Cambodian

    0 0%
  • Malaysian

    0 0%
  • Indonesian

    3 16.67%
  • Bruneian

    0 0%
  • Pinoy

    6 33.33%
  • Vietnamese

    0 0%
  • Singaporean

    2 11.11%
  • East Timorese

    1 5.56%
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    Quote Originally Posted by KuakoVoice View Post
    I'd say Melanesians have definitely retained the most of the Precolonial beliefs,many were also some of the last Christian's to be converted.Like Highland Papua,even Sumba for that matter
    Yes true. In Vanuatu I heard of Kastom villages like Yakel where they are still animists or the Kwaio in Solomon Islands.

    I hope they revert back to their old religions and lifestyle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KuakoVoice View Post
    East Timor has been Catholic since the Portugese took over in 1769.Not when "Indonesia" made them choose,since Indonesia didnt even exist until after World War 2.

    Indonesia only ruled East Timor for 20 years and we all know how that worked out for them.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Timor_genocide

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cath..._in_East_Timor
    Did you even read the links you provided?

    The Church played an important role in society during the Indonesian occupation of East Timor. While just 20% of East Timorese called themselves Catholics at the time of the 1975 invasion, the figure surged to reach 95% by the end of the first decade after the invasion.
    So yes, the Catholic Church has been in East Timor since the 1700s, but the vast majority of the population was not Catholic until after 1975. They only coverted because Indonesia's government requires you to be part of one of the registered religions.

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    Some of my Filipino relatives who are in the "Chamorro range" of European ancestry, meaning they're 1/8th to 1/4th European

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    She does not look European admixed at all. In fact, I would have guessed her as a Chinese-mixed Filipina before guessing her as having any amount of European

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    Also does not look European in the least bit. But his dad does look mixed...

    If all the European came from his dad, then dad is close to 40% European

    3. Here's a relative who is outside the Chamorro range because he has too much European. But he doesn't look any different from a typical Filipino


    But when he was younger, he did look mestizo...


    4. This one lists all her grandparents as being from the Philippines. But it looks like she has more American ancestry instead of Spanish



    Here's some non-relative Filipinos from 23andme subreddit who are also within the Chamorro range...

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    And these don't have a large amount of European but Latino posters on here and on reddit have said they can pass as Latinas

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    So don't count on using phenotype to determine which Filipinos are mixed with European, because some of the most mixed just look like regular Filipinos, and some of the least mixed actually look Latino

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    Didn't know that I would genetically be a typical Chamorro.

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    Chamorro people

    The guy with the big beard is actually half white. I've seen him talk about it in interviews. The surname Bevacqua is from his white side. One of the women looks white but comes from 2 Chamorro parents. So she's like the Spanish-looking Filipinos. Everyone else in the video would just pass as regular Filipinos. Even though they probably all have 1/8th to 1/4th European blood, it doesn't show much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GaneshD'Souza View Post
    Chamorro people

    The guy with the big beard is actually half white. I've seen him talk about it in interviews. One of the women looks white but comes from 2 Chamorro parents. So she's like the Spanish-looking Filipinos. Everyone else in the video would just pass as regular Filipinos. Even though they probably all have 1/8th to 1/4th European blood, it doesn't show much.
    I have seen a Chamorro in 23andme results that had less than 1 percent Oceanian,I think .5 percent.To me as a Moluccan that's both funny,ironic, and even sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KuakoVoice View Post
    I have seen a Chamorro in 23andme results that had less than 1 percent Oceanian,I think .5 percent.To me as a Moluccan that's both funny,ironic, and even sad.
    The type of Oceanian they have is probably not in 23andme's reference population.

    According to the only study on Chamorros' autosomal DNA, they're on average:

    43% (+/- 4%) Northeast Asian
    29% (+/- 3%) Southeast Asian
    4% (+/- 1.5%) Oceania
    10% (+/- 3.5%) Mediterranean
    7% (+/- 2.5%) Northern European
    3% (+/- 1%) Southwestern Asian
    3% (+/- 1.5%) Native American

    https://www.guampedia.com/chamorro-d...amorro-people/

    The same study found that Filipinos are:

    56% (+/- 1%) Northeast Asian
    36% (+/- 1%) Southeast Asian
    5% (+/- 1%) Oceania
    1.5% (+/- 1.5%) Mediterranean

    Ironically, Filipinos are a bit more Oceanian than Chamorros are. But that's probably just because Chamorros are so mixed with white

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    Quote Originally Posted by Synapsid View Post
    Western Eurasian in the sense of Saami or ice hunter hunters, not basal rich Meds or Levant which is where Catholicism comes from. ANE looked nothing like an Italian. Most Chinese i met are irreligious but there some protestant fanatics, it looks weird to me. Btw Are'nt you ethnic 华夏?
    Besides ANE, Amerindians also have significant Southern European ancestry.

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    I think Pinoy, and Recent European mainly Spanish admixture definitely brought some more West Eurasian like phenotypes to the Philippines. I Know many Filipinos that could pass as Hispanic (Mestizo)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unknown European View Post
    I think Pinoy, and Recent European mainly Spanish admixture definitely brought some more West Eurasian like phenotypes to the Philippines. I Know many Filipinos that could pass as Hispanic (Mestizo)
    Filipino looks can be deceiving. This full Filipino girl looks Eurasian to me. I thought for sure she would be heavily mixed.

    But her DNA results showed that she's only 0.8% European, 0.8% South Asian (both are typical for a Filipino). The rest is Filipino.

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