View Poll Results: What SE Asians have the most Caucasoid/ West Eurasian admixture?

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    5 27.78%
  • Thai

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  • Cambodian

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  • Malaysian

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  • Indonesian

    3 16.67%
  • Bruneian

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  • Pinoy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unknown European View Post
    I think a lot of people assume Caucasian-like phenotypes only occurs in the Philippines because of Recent European admixture. But i don't think that is accurate. I acknowledge that Caucasian traits are also indigenous to East Asia and Pacific islands. and not just having colonial origins
    Yes like the Ainu and Papuans,both are very Indigineous to the far Asia-Pacific region and both have psuedo Caucasoid features.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KuakoVoice View Post
    Yes like the Ainu and Papuans,both are very Indigineous to the far Asia-Pacific region and both have psuedo Caucasoid features.
    Even the Japanese failed to differentiate between the Ainu and Russian, because of physical similarities (white skin and Caucasoid facial features).

    When the Japanese first came into contact with the Russians, they called them Red Ainu (blonde haired Ainu). Only during the beginning of the 19th century did the Japanese learn that the Russians are a different group altogether. The Russians, however, reported the Ainu as "hairy", "swarthy", and with dark eyes and hair. Early Russian explorers reported that the Ainu looked like bearded Russian peasants (with swarthy skin) or like the Persians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GaneshD'Souza View Post
    Filipinos have South Asian admixture too. You can see it in all their 23andme results. Other Southeast Asians usually come up with around the same amount of South Asian as Filipinos.

    Here's the Indonesians who have posted on 23andme's subreddit. I'm only listing the Central/South Asian and the European. They have other ancestries too:

    He's 0.9% Central/South Asian, 0% European
    https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/com..._that_im_more/

    She's 3.3% Central/South Asian, 0% European (Keep in mind she identified as Indonesian-Chinese)
    https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/com...zech_republic/

    0.2% Central/South Asian, 0% European
    https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/com..._results_2020/

    0.7% Central/South Asian, 0% European
    https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/com...pic_of_myself/

    0.2% Central/South Asian, 0% European
    https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/com...knew_anything/

    0.3% Central/South Asian, 0% European
    https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/com...sian_ambonese/


    Here's all the Cambodians:

    0.5% Central/South Asian, 0.2% European
    https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/com...odian_results/

    1.4% Central/South Asian, 0% European
    https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/com...lts_cambodian/

    3.3% Central/South Asian, 0% European
    https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/com...inese_however/

    0.6% Central/South Asian, 0.1% European
    https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/com..._in_cambodian/

    3.5% Central/South Asian, 0% European
    https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/com...mbodian_asian/


    The only full Thai result:

    He's not showing his trace regions, but it's 0.6%, so we'll assume that's all South Asian and European
    https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/com...nd_thought_he/


    Here's all the Filipinos who have posted since the last update. There are tons. There are more who posted older results, but I didn't include them. I only included people who identify as full Filipino and don't mention that they have a foreign parent or grandparent (besides Chinese)

    He’s 0.6% Central/South Asian, and 1.9% European
    https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/com...e_but_heres_a/

    2.4% Central/South Asian, 7.2% Euro
    https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/com..._got/?sort=new

    0.8% Central/South Asian, 0% Euro
    https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/com...lipino_anyone/

    0% Central/South Asian, and 0.4% Euro
    https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/com...om_the_ilocos/

    0.7% Central/South Asian, and 16% Euro
    https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/com...to_post_a_pic/

    1.2% Central/South Asian, 0.5% Euro
    https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/com...expecting_100/

    1% Central/South Asian, 0.2% Euro
    https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/com...were_filipino/

    0.6% Central/South Asian, 5.5% Euro
    https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/com...ish_the_trace/

    0% Central/South Asian, 16% Euro
    https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/com...t_my_maternal/

    0.1% Central/South Asian, 0% Euro
    https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/com...ay_i_was_born/

    1% Central/South Asian, 1.8% Euro
    https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/com...and_getting_a/

    0.6% Central/South Asian, 0.5% Euro
    https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/com...ipino_results/

    2.9% Central/South Asian, 9.1% Euro
    https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/com...ipino_results/

    0.4% Central/South Asian, 0.8% Euro
    https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/com...ndonesian_and/

    1.5% Central/South Asian, 1.4% Euro
    https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/com...some_pleasant/

    0.6% Central/South Asian, 3% Euro
    https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/com...e_philippines/

    3 results in one post....

    First person- 0.1% Central/South Asian, 0.3% Euro

    2nd Person- 0.1% Central/South Asian, 0.5% Euro

    3rd Person- 0% Central/South Asian, 0% Euro

    https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/com...pino_ancestry/

    1.2% Central/South Asian, 0.4% Euro
    https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/com...ipino_results/

    0.3% Central/South Asian, 0.7% Euro
    https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/com...ults_filipino/

    0.6% Central/South Asian, 7.1% Euro
    https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/com...ipino_results/

    1.4% Central/South Asian, 1.6% Euro
    https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/com...chip_filipino/

    2.7% Central/South Asian, 0.3% Euro
    https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/com...st_hardly_any/

    0% Central/South Asian, 1.3% Euro
    https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/com...o_checking_in/

    1.2% Central/South Asian, 0.2% Euro
    https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/com..._vs_september/

    Three results in one post...

    1st Person- 0.7% Central/South Asian, 16% Euro

    2nd Person- 0.2% Central/South Asian, 10% Euro

    3rd Person- 0% Central/South Asian, 4% Euro

    https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/com...verse_results/

    1.6% Central/South Asian, 32% Euro
    https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/com...filipino_kick/

    0.5% Central/South Asian, 6.5% Euro
    https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/com...n_born_in_the/

    1.2 Central/South Asian, 6.6% Euro
    https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/com...eferred_to_as/

    0.8% Central/South Asian, 0.5% Euro
    https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/com...filipino_born/

    1.2% Central/South Asian, 0.1% Euro
    https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/com...in_california/

    0.1% Central/South Asian, 13% Euro
    https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/com...er_the_update/

    0% Central/South Asian, 0.1% Euro
    https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/com...uper_filipino/

    0.6% Central/South Asian, 7.1% Euro
    https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/com...nt_things_but/

    0% Central/South Asian, 1.8% Euro
    https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/com...50_confidence/

    0.3% Central/South Asian, 17.1% Euro
    https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/com...ipino_results/

    0.8% Central/South Asian, 1.1% Euro
    https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/com...rising_at_all/

    0% Central/South Asian, 0% Euro
    https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/com...he_could_have/

    1.1% Central/South Asian, 1.6% Euro
    https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/com...th_admixtures/

    0.6% Central/South Asian, 0.3% Euro
    https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/com...nt_of_chinese/

    1.5% Central/South Asian, 1.5% Euro
    https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/com...ixed_filipino/

    0.7% Central/South Asian, 0.5% Euro
    https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/com...both_from_the/

    0.7% Central/South Asian, 0% Euro
    https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/com...erent_from_my/

    0.1% Central/South Asian, 4.5% European
    https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/com...xed_with_that/

    Filipinos results are varied, but almost all have some amount of South Asian and European. The amount of South Asian isn't substantially lower than that of Indonesians or Cambodians

    I calculated the average amount for the 47 Filipinos above. The average for Central/South Asian is 0.7%. The average for European is 4.3% (but this is skewed by some high amounts). The median amount is probably closer to 1-2%, which is what I found was the median amount of European after looking at 200 Filipino results on the 23andme website itself. That also goes along with the Guam study that found that Filipinos are 1.5% Mediterranean on average
    https://www.guampedia.com/chamorro-d...amorro-people/

    The average amount for the 12 Indonesian, Thais, and Cambodians was 1.3% (South/Central Asian and European combined). But this is a small sample, I'll admit.

    Before anyone says "23andme doesn't look at ancient admixture, only recent" Yeah, I highly doubt all those Filipinos with South Asian ancestry have recent South Asian. The Philippines' South Asian influenced ended more than 700 years ago. All that South/Central Asian is ancient ancestry and it's spread throughout most of the population.
    Lol 23andme is not accurate at all. Its category is very stupid lmao. You have to use Gedmatch or Global 25 to know the actual amount of South Asian
    admixture.

    I can post various Gedmatch results that shows Philipinos have very little South Asian compared to most SE Asians and you won't be able to refute it lol.

    Btw Filos don't have the most Caucasoid admixture in SE Asia, its the Burmese and Thai who have them. If the question was who have the most European admixture, Pinoys will win.

    Filos have only 1-5% Caucasoid on average, while Burmese, Thais and Malays can have around 8-10% or more for the most part.
    Last edited by Maguzanci; 11-23-2020 at 08:14 AM.

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    Lol those who choose Filipinos don't know what they are talking about. Do you just choose Filos because of their connection with Spaniards and the New World?

    If the question was who has the most European admixture, Pinoys will win. But here, the answer is clearly Burmese, Thai followed by Malays.

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    They're talking to this mestizo in Tagalog as if he's just a regular Filipino (which he is)

    You can also hear him replying back in some Tagalog mixed with English in the second half of the video. That's how wealthy Filipinos (regardless of ethnicity) talk. The most integrated Euro-Asians are definitely in the Philippines. Other Asians would see a white foreigner. Filipinos just see a Filipino

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    Quote Originally Posted by GaneshD'Souza View Post
    They're talking to this mestizo in Tagalog as if he's just a regular Filipino (which he is)

    You can also hear him replying back in some Tagalog mixed with English in the second half of the video. That's how wealthy Filipinos (regardless of ethnicity) talk. The most integrated Euro-Asians are definitely in the Philippines. Other Asians would see a white foreigner. Filipinos just see a Filipino
    Nope.Indonesia also is accepting of it's mixed race Caucasian people too and they even have and had their own communities called "Indos".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zuh View Post
    Filipinos are negroes even american amerindians have way more Caucasian admixture then them.

    Getting back to the question I would say without a doubt Singaporeans.



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    Lol how is Philippines, not in the running, we have entire families in the Philippines who are of mostly European ancestry, like the Aboitiz, Ugarte, Ayala, Elizalde families

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