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    Default African & European Ancestry of Mexicans

    I have scaled it to 100%, I finished Northern Mexico's African and European. I am almost done doing Southern Mexico's European (the African was the first spreadsheet I had finished)


    Northern Mexico's European heritage

    Northeast vs Northwestern Mexico

    Northeastern Mexico:
    The Spaniards who settled there were majority from Andalusia, Extremadura, Castilla-La Mancha and small pockets of Northern Spaniards from Cantabaria, Asturias, Navarre and Basque
    The Portuguese who majority settled there were coming from Azores Islands
    The Italians who majority were settling there were coming from the Northern part with small pockets from the Southern

    Sephardi Jews also settled there and made it their home, in which majority of them were coming from Portugal and then Spain




    Northwestern Mexico:
    The Spaniards came from various parts, but unlike Northeastern Mexico, they received a rather much larger Basque/Northern Spanish population
    There were Portuguese and Italian soldiers who came with the Spanish to colonize the Northwestern part of Mexico
    Since I don't much samples from Sinaloa and Baja California, I am not sure how much those Italians even contributed to the gene pool of that population


    Obviously, Sephardi Jews also settled there












    Northern Mexico's African heritage

    60.8% West African
    21.7% Central & Southeastern African
    0.5% Northeast African
    17.0% Broadly African

    Adjusting the percentages

    61.3% West African (Including Northeast African)
    38.7% Central African (Including Broadly African)


    Their African ancestry seems to be Fula and Angolan (North and South) for the most part, while others a mixture of Nigerian


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    The name of the old kingdosm of New Spain, subdivided into provinces and intendencies, provides us a bit of information where the spanish colonisers (and the european admixture by the way) came from in each modern mexican state:





    Nuevo Santander = Cantabria. Nowadays Tamaulipas

    Nuevo Reino de León = Reino de León (León, Zamora and Salamanca provinces)

    Nueva Extremadura = Extremadura. Nowadays Coahuila.

    Nueva Vizcaya = País Vasco, and probably Navarra too. Nowadays Chihuahua and Durango

    Nueva Navarra = Navarra, and probably País Vasco too. Nowadays Sonora and Sinalo

    Reino de Nueva Galicia = Galicia. Nowadays Jalisco, Nayarit and Aguascalientes.

    Intendencia de Valladolid = Old Castille. Nowadays Michoacán.

    The intendency of Oaxaca was also known as intendency of Antequera. Antequera is an andalousian small-size city. So most of the scarce european imput of oaxacans could come from andalousians.

    Appart the name, it´s known that almost all the spanish colonizers of Nueva Filipinas (nowadays Texas) were canarians. The same happens in Louisiana, were the frech colonizers were much more numerous than spanish ones, province ruled by Spain during some years (1764-1804).

    Also most of novohispanic colonizers of both Californias had basque ancestry, because the came from Nueva Navarra mostly. But this hispanic group was dramatically diminished in importance and visibility by the huge angloamerican migration in the second half of the XIX-XX, and then by the massive migration of mexicans in the XX century.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duffmannn View Post
    The name of the old kingdosm of New Spain, subdivided into provinces and intendencies, provides us a bit of information where the spanish colonisers (and the european admixture by the way) came from in each modern mexican state:

    Nuevo Santander = Cantabria. Nowadays Tamaulipas

    Nuevo Reino de León = Reino de León (León, Zamora and Salamanca provinces)

    Nueva Extremadura = Extremadura. Nowadays Coahuila.

    Nueva Vizcaya = País Vasco, and probably Navarra too. Nowadays Chihuahua and Durango

    Nueva Navarra = Navarra, and probably País Vasco too. Nowadays Sonora and Sinalo

    Reino de Nueva Galicia = Galicia. Nowadays Jalisco, Nayarit and Aguascalientes.

    Intendencia de Valladolid = Old Castille. Nowadays Michoacán.

    The intendency of Oaxaca was also known as intendency of Antequera. Antequera is an andalousian small-size city. So most of the scarce european imput of oaxacans could come from andalousians.

    Appart the name, it´s known that almost all the spanish colonizers of Nueva Filipinas (nowadays Texas) were canarians. The same happens in Louisiana, were the frech colonizers were much more numerous than spanish ones, province ruled by Spain during some years (1764-1804).

    Also most of novohispanic colonizers of both Californias had basque ancestry, because the came from Nueva Navarra mostly. But this hispanic group was dramatically diminished in importance and visibility by the huge angloamerican migration in the second half of the XIX-XX, and then by the massive migration of mexicans in the XX century.
    The names have nothing to do with the Spanish settlers in those regions, I hope you know that, even the Spaniards on this forum know this as well, maybe you should get educated by them properly if you really want to keep passing yourself as a Spaniard LOL

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    How many Mexicans have any Jew ancestry?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sweetener View Post
    How many Mexicans have any Jew ancestry?
    to be honest, about 99% of my samples have some Jewish ancestry on 23andMe
    Mexicans from Northeastern and Western-Central have the highest levels, there are some reaching 3% which is a lot for Latin American standards

    I am working on Western-Central Mexico right now, I will post it when I finish

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlito's Way View Post
    to be honest, about 99% of my samples have some Jewish ancestry on 23andMe
    Mexicans from Northeastern and Western-Central have the highest levels, there are some reaching 3% which is a lot for Latin American standards

    I am working on Western-Central Mexico right now, I will post it when I finish
    They might be homogenous then

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    60% African? lol. Unrealistic. Mexico don't import many slaves during during the Atlantic slave trade. Cuba, Puerto Rico, Brazil, Venezuela, Colombia, Dominican Republic have the have the highest percent of African ancestry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjnorl View Post
    60% African? lol. Unrealistic. Mexico don't import many slaves during during the Atlantic slave trade. Cuba, Puerto Rico, Brazil, Venezuela, Colombia, Dominican Republic have the have the highest percent of African ancestry.
    He said that +60% of Africans would be whest, not 60% of Mexicans.

    Although I can not prove it, some Amerindians bring some SSA into the genes it has no relation to modern SSA in Africa.

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