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    Quote Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo View Post
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    Ok, but I want you to admit the 1986 Celtics were really talented. You said they weren’t that talented in another thread. They had 4 hall of famers. I can’t let that slide. Btw, could Larry Bird pass in Barcelona?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daco Celtic View Post
    Ok, but I want you to admit the 1986 Celtics were really talented. You said they weren’t that talented in another thread. They had 4 hall of famers. I can’t let that slide. Could Larry Bird pass in Barcelona?
    I used to support Celtics of 80s because Bird and because it was "a white team" as opposed to black Lakers.
    Only Bird was a super-star there. McHale, Parish, Johnson were almost stars, Walton a ex-star and Ainge not even similar. FACT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo View Post
    I used to support Celtics of 80s because Bird and because it was "a white team" as opposed to black Lakers.
    Only Bird was a super-star there. McHale, Parish, Johnson were almost stars, Walton a ex-star and Ainge not even similar. FACT.
    I'd definitively call McHale all-star too but injury later on made his career stats worse. Probably one of the most difficult players to guard at that time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo View Post
    I used to support Celtics of 80s because Bird and because it was "a white team" as opposed to black Lakers.
    Only Bird was a super-star there. McHale, Parish, Johnson were almost stars, Walton a ex-star and Ainge not even similar. FACT.
    I got your facts right here. I think if a dude is in the Hall of Fame (like McHale, Parish, Johnson), he's a star. I guess its depends on your idea of star. Anyway, this was a great series right here:


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    We were colonized by aliens several years ago and the Earth is a tv show for aliens

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    If you have a spacecraft with a limited amount of space and a limited amount of food supplies, it is - logically thinking - better to take 150 short settlers than 100 tall settlers (for example). For example Yuri Gagarin, the first man in space, was just 157 cm short. Taking this into consideration, can we expect that in the future other planets will be colonized by short people, while tall people like me - and our genes - will be doomed to remain on Earth? Is being tall a dead end of evolution?
    Nope. Planetary formation models suggest that planets which would have appreciably higher gravity than Earth probably become ocean worlds. Let's suppose the one in question hasn't, either because it's not much bigger or for unspecified reasons. Then we have to answer the question of just how strong the gravity is, whether you can scale the human form down to be suitable for any plausible gravitational environment. This of course doesn't mean that the particular human form will be successful in the ecological setting in question, but gravity won't be what does it in.

    Short thick legs are not conducive to efficient bipedal locomotion. The only viable alternative is to transfer human sentience onto robots who would be able to take their infinite lifespans and colonise the planet. In the far future we might see matron robots terraform and populate distant planets with human embryos.

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    BTW most of potentially habitable exoplanets discovered so far are bigger than Earth, and so gravity is likely higher there: Such planets are not an ideal environment for tall people. A stocky and short breed of humans would be better adapted.
    Most potentially habitable planets we've found have been around red dwarf stars, since - one, they're the most common, and two, they usually have the most non-hydrogen elements around them, so a lot of their planets are rocky. Another thing, though a lot of habitable planets are heavier than earth, due to how rockets work, Earth is actually on the higher ends of gravity for chemical fuels to be strong enough for us to get into orbit. Any heavier, and rockets might just not work.

    Planets with gravity higher than earth's will crush the human body without some kind of exoskeleton even if you are short and chubby, with gravity lower than earth's will extend longevity of the human body, but you eventually adapt to it and won't be able to return to earth without some kind of exoskeleton.

    Years around red dwarf stars are only a few days, so keeping track of time in that fashion would be difficult. Our calendars would be very odd, and we might have a hard time keeping track of days, weeks, months, and years all interacting like we do on Earth.

    So, it's best to choose colony planets with gravity similar to earth's. Humans are space dwarfs, if anything. Earth is somewhere in the upper bound of planets that can be escaped with chemical rockets, but to other alien species we would look extremely short and squat.

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    Resources on other planets will likely also be limited and there will very likely be shortages of oxygen. Look at human races who survive in low oxygen and high altitude environments. How do they look like? They are short and stocky. Peoples like Tibetans, Peruvian Quechuas, Bolivian Aymaras come to mind.
    Only 87% of Tibetans have a specific gene (EPAS1) that allows them to use up to 40% less oxygen than the average human. Tibetans (along with some Pacific Islanders) seem to be the only ones with this gene, because their Denisovan ancestors interbred, forming a pool of the same genes over and over until extinction.

    And some high-altitude residents develop chronic mountain sickness (CMS), also known as Monge's disease. Many of the CMS sufferers live in the Andes in Latin America. On the other hand, tall high-altitude dwellers in Ethiopia typically don’t suffer from CMS at all, simply because they don't carry several genetic mutations that help them deal with the low oxygen levels.

    The genes SENP1 and ANP32D were found to be more distinctly expressed in those people who were chronic sufferers of CMS, and those who didn't have the disease had different versions of the gene. So long as they lack the mettle to solve simple health problems on Earth, they're unfit for space travel.

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    Why do you think in our Science Fiction novels and movies, inhabitants of other planets are, usually, depicted as very short creatures? On subconscious level SF creators already know what I'm discussing here. That short people are better adapted for space colonization.
    Why are movie aliens, when arriving on Earth, depicted as having no clothes, suits, armours? They're interstellar travellers, yet they have no protection? They just walk around naked? Clothing is mostly a social construct that we created, so who knows whether or not other species would adhere to it.

    Most of these movie aliens are allegories for meetings between different races/religions anyways so you're really just splitting hairs for no reason.

    All of the aliens in Star Wars for instance are based on human racial stereotypes:

    1. Yoda - short, screwed up syntax, all spiritual, wears a robe, does kung-fu (chink).

    2. Chewbacca - hairy, ill-tempered, never speaks English, sucks at chess, wears a bandolier (spic).

    3. Jabba the Hutt - fat, smokes hookah, gets fanned by slaves, oppresses women, listens to Middle Eastern music (sandnigger).

    4. Ewoks - live in the woods, mistake C-3PO for a god, primitive with technology (Injuns).

    5. Jar Jar Binks - utterly useless, cowardly, annoying accent, dragon wing ears or dreadlocks (negro).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    We were colonized by aliens several years ago and the Earth is a tv show for aliens
    And Covid-19 pandemic was the first advertising break.

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