View Poll Results: Dominant ethno-linguistic group of Eastern Europe in this scenario?:

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  • Finno-Ugric

    0 0%
  • West Baltic

    1 6.67%
  • East Baltic

    1 6.67%
  • East Germanic

    7 46.67%
  • Norse/Scandinavian

    2 13.33%
  • Geto-Dacian-Thracian

    4 26.67%
  • Eastern Celtic

    0 0%
  • Albanian

    2 13.33%
  • Hellenic

    3 20.00%
  • Eastern Romance

    5 33.33%
  • Eastern Iranian

    2 13.33%
  • Turkic

    5 33.33%
  • Caucasic

    1 6.67%
  • Venetic

    1 6.67%
  • Irminonic

    1 6.67%
  • some (which?) combination of the above

    0 0%
  • other

    0 0%
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Thread: [Alternate History] Ethnography of Eastern Europe Without Slavs

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    Quote Originally Posted by ixulescu View Post
    Not much would have changed.
    Eastern Europe would have been dominated by the tribes already local. Thrachian, East Romance, Baltic (? not so sure here), East German, and Norse.
    The livelihood of the Turkic tribes was tied to the steppe, and the steppe ends at the Carpathians.
    Whitout Serbs you would have big Italy and quite big Germany..Italy eventualy assimilate some tribes( including today Albanians), other empty space will take over germanic folks..Maybe Turks will make some noise but short time...

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    Quote Originally Posted by HungryLion View Post
    Whitout Serbs you would have big Italy and quite big Germany..Italy eventualy assimilate some tribes( including today Albanians), other empty space will take over germanic folks..Maybe Turks will make some noise but short time...
    I'm not sure.
    Remember, the Roman Empire has split simply because large distances translated into large political and social discrepancies between the regions of the empire.
    An ancient Great Germany or Great Italy would still have been empire-like, comprising of many distinct tribes.

    of course, this is just guessing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dick View Post
    It was the germanics that called us Wends. I remember seeing an old German map of the Balkans and the word Wends was used for Slovenes and Serbs but not Croats.
    Serbs weren't called Wends, Sorbs were. Slovenians also. Wends means Western Slavs.

    Quote Originally Posted by HungryLion View Post
    On the old maps Croats wasn't called Slavs, I guess it was Avar tribes or partly under Avars rules and name.
    No, Croats anihilated Avars. Origin of Serbian ethnonym:

    ‘Serbs’ in the tongue of the Romans is the word for ‘slaves’, whence the colloquial ‘serbula’ for menial shoes, and ‘tzerboulianoi’ for those who wear cheap, shoddy footgear. This name the Serbs acquired from their being slaves of the emperor of the Romans.

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    Finno-Ugric or Balts but even nowadays Eastern Europe aren't fully Slavic. The Poles are a mix of Slavs and Balts, the Czechs a mix of Slavic and Germans and the Russians are a mix of Slavic, Balts and Finno-Ugric.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laag View Post
    but even nowadays Eastern Europe aren't fully Slavic.
    Question in the poll is about languages mainly.

    There aren't really any Baltic-speakers in Poland.

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    scythians would dominate in their place

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    Thracian or Iranian language speakers will dominate, and some other tribes replace void incase of "pseudo" disapearance of native Balto Slavic population.

    Bulgarian Empire will dominate as the first Balto Slavic nation.

    This scenario is funny, cause already happened.

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    Geto-Dacian-Thracian, East Germanic and Hellenic would probably dominate.
    After not shaving for a while:

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    I voted for Albanians, don't know why

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