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    Quote Originally Posted by DontFxxkWithWendy View Post
    Hey, that’s really close to her kit! What does she get on Dodecad and K36?
    Here is Eurogenes K36 and Dodecad V3 for my Mom. I can see that your aunt has a Southwest Asian component in Dodecad that my mother lacks, and Arabian and Armenian in K36 that my mother lacks as well. Otherwise they are pretty similar, at least from my quick look.

    Eurogenes K36
    Population
    Amerindian -
    Arabian -
    Armenian -
    Basque 0.74
    Central_African -
    Central_Euro 7.22
    East_African -
    East_Asian -
    East_Balkan 5.85
    East_Central_Asian -
    East_Central_Euro 6.19
    East_Med -
    Eastern_Euro 4.02
    Fennoscandian 6.17
    French 9.11
    Iberian 16.99
    Indo-Chinese -
    Italian 9.50
    Malayan -
    Near_Eastern -
    North_African -
    North_Atlantic 15.59
    North_Caucasian 4.07
    North_Sea 14.55
    Northeast_African -
    Oceanian -
    Omotic -
    Pygmy -
    Siberian -
    South_Asian -
    South_Central_Asian -
    South_Chinese -
    Volga-Ural -
    West_African -
    West_Caucasian -
    West_Med -



    Dodecad V3
    # Population Percent
    1 West_European 49.26
    2 Mediterranean 27.93
    3 East_European 11.53
    4 West_Asian 9.01
    5 South_Asian 1.58
    6 East_African 0.35
    7 Southwest_Asian 0.35

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 CEU (HapMap) 5.02
    2 N._European (Xing) 6.84
    3 Argyll (1000 Genomes) 7.07
    4 Orcadian (HGDP) 7.12
    5 Orkney (1000 Genomes) 7.52
    6 German (Dodecad) 8.28
    7 French (HGDP) 9.44
    8 French (Dodecad) 9.57
    9 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 12.41
    10 Dutch (Dodecad) 13.39
    11 Slovenian (Xing) 13.7
    12 Kent (1000 Genomes) 15.49
    13 British_Isles (Dodecad) 17.35
    14 British (Dodecad) 17.43
    15 Hungarians (Behar) 17.62
    16 Cornwall (1000 Genomes) 17.96
    17 Irish (Dodecad) 20.35
    18 French_Basque (HGDP) 20.36
    19 Swedish (Dodecad) 20.45
    20 Portuguese (Dodecad) 20.94

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 83.9% Orkney (1000 Genomes) + 16.1% Greek (Dodecad) @ 1.51
    2 88.9% CEU (HapMap) + 11.1% Greek (Dodecad) @ 1.53
    3 84.7% Orcadian (HGDP) + 15.3% Greek (Dodecad) @ 1.54
    4 81.3% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 18.7% Tuscan (HGDP) @ 1.92
    5 89.6% CEU (HapMap) + 10.4% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 1.95
    6 90% CEU (HapMap) + 10% S_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.98
    7 76.3% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 23.7% N_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.99
    8 87.9% CEU (HapMap) + 12.1% C_Italian (Dodecad) @ 2.04
    9 85.5% Orcadian (HGDP) + 14.5% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 2.06
    10 89.4% CEU (HapMap) + 10.6% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 2.11
    11 84.7% Orkney (1000 Genomes) + 15.3% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 2.13
    12 85.8% CEU (HapMap) + 14.2% Romanians_14 (Behar) @ 2.14
    13 86.7% CEU (HapMap) + 13.3% Tuscan (HGDP) @ 2.16
    14 85.1% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 14.9% Greek (Dodecad) @ 2.17
    15 85.6% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 14.4% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 2.18
    16 86% CEU (HapMap) + 14% O_Italian (Dodecad) @ 2.19
    17 86% Orcadian (HGDP) + 14% S_Italian (Dodecad) @ 2.21
    18 83.2% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 16.8% C_Italian (Dodecad) @ 2.24
    19 85.3% Orkney (1000 Genomes) + 14.7% S_Italian (Dodecad) @ 2.27
    20 92.2% CEU (HapMap) + 7.8% Cypriots (Behar) @ 2.3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić View Post
    Flemish or Wallon ?
    German + British

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    Pretty much accurate, I am mostly Norman and Saxon historically Orkney is Scand-Gael, I have a lot of continental German recently bred in and some Irish too. those are single populations but I can trace my ancestry on paper to to all of them. I am father Europe.

    1 Southeast_English 3.14
    2 Southwest_English 3.44
    3 Orcadian 5.03
    4 West_Scottish 5.31
    5 Irish 5.54
    6 South_Dutch 6.03
    7 North_Dutch 6.59
    8 Danish 6.98
    9 West_German 7.4
    10 North_German 8.08
    11 Norwegian 9.07
    12 French 10.03
    13 Swedish 11.4
    14 Austrian 14.63
    15 East_German 15.6
    16 Spanish_Cataluna 16.53
    17 North_Swedish 17.27
    18 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 17.83
    19 Southwest_French 18.04
    20 Spanish_Cantabria 18.29

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    I would've guessed German-italian

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    Do you have her commercial test results? Would be interesting to see.

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    She got all German, British and Irish on AncestryDNA, with a trace of Swedish ancestry. I’m Sephardic on my mom’s side so I was really surprised my paternal aunt had Sephardic matches too, as well as high Arab scores on GEDMatch. Oh well...

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    I thought she might be from southern Germany.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DontFxxkWithWendy View Post
    I’m not one of those ‘Cherokee princess’ people but I definitely think based on what I’m seeing, she is ⅛ Sephardic.She, my dad and paternal grandpa are both fairly dark and resemble a lot of western Sephardim. Not sure exactly which great grandparent it was but I do know there were Sephardim who came to the colonies, especially Virginia, from Portugal, England and the Caribbean.
    Quote Originally Posted by DontFxxkWithWendy View Post
    (She’s mostly colonial American though, from the Virginia/Maryland area!!!)
    This doesn't sound nearly as implausible as you thought it did.
    Quote Originally Posted by DontFxxkWithWendy View Post
    I do know there were Sephardim who came to the colonies
    [I]n Colonial times Sephardim made up the majority of the Jewish population. (Wiki)
    [...]
    In addition to Crypto-Jews in modern Mexico, the history of colonial Mexico extends to the claims of families in the Southwest United States to be descended from Sephardic Jews escaping the Mexican Inquisition with some making a connection to the Crypto-Jewish settlers of the New Kingdom of León. Their claims are controversial with academics both supporting and debunking these claims.[7] (Wiki)

    Sephardi Conversos and Marranos once inhabited the Old World 2.0, including what was the Thirteenth Colonies. Based on your wild conjecture I concocted my very own wild hypothesis just for f*n: Supposing they impacted the area economically (which they did, look it up) and genetically (assimilation into future upper and upper-middle colonial American society is a given if you succeed at the former) although leaving less of a cultural footprint there than they did in Spanish- and Portuguese-speaking places still gives you a typical ethnolinguistic outcome, resembling the case of Turkic Bulgars in Europe c. 900 who despite being numerous dropped their customs and language for the dominant language of the area like Sephardim did, potentially, a trend Mestizo Americans replicate today.

    To really drive this motherfucking home, let's also factor in how unlikely or uncommon it really was for Native Americans to genetically contribute to Southern society enough to materialize "them residual Injun traits" in an average Southerner. The tight grip WASP government had on Southern society using social engineering methods societies of all colors, genders, and shapes in all points of history used, e.g. one-drop rule, castration, religion, expulsion, and bans, practically shoots down the theory narrated through old family tales and deepest lore featuring "mythic encounters" with "dark and mysterious Native American strangers" contemporary descendants of that society romanticize either to honor clueless dead relatives by innocuously parroting one of many middle-class amateur genealogy memes passed down for generations like a particularly aggressive strain of STI or hit that plausible deniability sweet spot about their German dark brown hair to optionally retcon a new Elizabeth Warren storyline for brownie (lel) points. If Sephardim were already entrenched in the area (which they were) it is to be expected they left a trace in the native Southern WASP genepool exactly in the form of "grandparent's mysterious Injun looks," including individuals as diverse as Virginia native Chris Chan ("Ashkenazi/Iberian," that Chris has an infinitesimal amount of, is a typical proxy match for Sephardi ancestry).

    I had an epiphany about this in a dream and don't care whether this was already researched or not. I am bringing this to the table because I chuckled at the idea of boomers' favorite past time game "Spot the Nonexisting Amerindian Ancestor In Your Family Tree" being the next big plausibly crypto-Sephardi thing since seemingly stereotypically British fish and chips.


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