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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley View Post
    This whole thing has been a mess. They opened up the vote to the public on Brexit and no one expected that the public would actually vote yes to Brexit. No one had anything worked out properly hence why they are still in this position over 3 years down the road. Good luck to whoever takes over because I'm not sure how anyone can turn this mess around. There seems to be gridlock as far as moving anything forward.
    Easy, get someone in who actually wants Britain out of the EU. Should have been the case all along.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley View Post
    This whole thing has been a mess. They opened up the vote to the public on Brexit and no one expected that the public would actually vote yes to Brexit. No one had anything worked out properly hence why they are still in this position over 3 years down the road. Good luck to whoever takes over because I'm not sure how anyone can turn this mess around. There seems to be gridlock as far as moving anything forward.
    Oh yeah. It has been a harrowing thing to spectate. Humor's what's kept loads of my British friends from hanging themselves over this whole fiasco. This same ordeal along with May's half-hearted approach is what sort of dimmed euroscepticism both in Denmark and the Netherlands which were looking at this quite attentively and to the British as a example they potentially could follow. Alas, it was squandered. They should've seen it comming even if the reasons for many people voting out were hazy. Largely it was the elders that voted leave, maybe blinded by nostalgia or maybe they simply wanted to be taken seriously as a sovereign power again and the younger ones did it largely on account of immigration, even though, if they were to do their homework or at least ask their grandparents, they'd know the greatest number of none white immigrants Britain took was in the latter half of the 50's and Powell's rivers of blood speech was in '68. Fifteen and five years before Britain even joined the EU. I'm no fan of the EU. I've made that more than clear, however, they've been dodging big questions for too long and Brussels was a good enough scapegoat 'till folk voted in a way that surprised them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by billErobreren View Post
    Is he truly the runner up? Are there no other contenders from the Tory Party? Let's see, 3 years ago, I remember Leadsom, 2 Scots; Fox and that other one with the fishmouth whose name eludes me.
    Haha, I'm assuming you mean Michael Gove? He's predicted to be the third most likely candidate, and Boris is the frontrunner at the moment. Personally I don't think a "good" candidate can be elected, but out of those eligible I'd want someone like Jeremy Hunt or Dominic Raab - at least they're not quite as elitist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by farke1 View Post
    Haha, I'm assuming you mean Michael Gove? He's predicted to be the third most likely candidate, and Boris is the frontrunner at the moment. Personally I don't think a "good" candidate can be elected, but out of those eligible I'd want someone like Jeremy Hunt or Dominic Raab - at least they're not quite as elitist.
    Gove! That's the one! I was gonna call him Grave but wasn't sure, it began with a "G" that much I knew.
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    Quote Originally Posted by farke1 View Post
    Maybe she's just crying because she knows the future of the country will now likely be placed into the hands of Boris Johnson. A tear-jerking thought, indeed.
    You mean Boris kemal the Turk ?

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    Huh, that speech was painful to watch. Say what you like about Theresa but she clearly cares deeply about the United Kingdom and honestly was acting in what she believed was the right way forward for the UK.

    I think, given a few years, the Brits will be looking back at May's reign as PM and thinking that it wasn't nearly as bad as what they originally believed (especially if BoJo becomes PM and fucks up Brexit giving them a No Deal or Bad Deal situation), kind of like Gordon Brown or the Coalition.

    She absolutely failed as PM, but while a good portion of situations she faced were created as a result of Tory policy (the Windrush scandal being caused by the "hostile environment" she helped create, the Grenfell tower fire being quite arguably caused by Council cost cutting desperation due to austerity, etc), I think that she can't be blamed for it all. Even if she had begun to compromise after the Withdrawal Agreement's first failure to pass Commons, she'd still have never gotten it past the hard-line Brexiteers in her own party. She was caught between a Hardline Maximum Brexit rock and a Totally Divided Commons. There was no way for her to succeed with her Brexit deal even with compromise and I think whoever succeeds her is taking up a poisoned chalice.

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    Was there any good female political leader ever?

    Thatcher is the only one I can think of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MissMischief View Post
    Huh, that speech was painful to watch. Say what you like about Theresa but she clearly cares deeply about the United Kingdom and honestly was acting in what she believed was the right way forward for the UK.

    I think, given a few years, the Brits will be looking back at May's reign as PM and thinking that it wasn't nearly as bad as what they originally believed (especially if BoJo becomes PM and fucks up Brexit giving them a No Deal or Bad Deal situation), kind of like Gordon Brown or the Coalition.

    She absolutely failed as PM, but while a good portion of situations she faced were created as a result of Tory policy (the Windrush scandal being caused by the "hostile environment" she helped create, the Grenfell tower fire being quite arguably caused by Council cost cutting desperation due to austerity, etc), I think that she can't be blamed for it all. Even if she had begun to compromise after the Withdrawal Agreement's first failure to pass Commons, she'd still have never gotten it past the hard-line Brexiteers in her own party. She was caught between a Hardline Maximum Brexit rock and a Totally Divided Commons. There was no way for her to succeed with her Brexit deal even with compromise and I think whoever succeeds her is taking up a poisoned chalice.
    she lacked the political skill, to deal with brexit that's right

    but i agree, at least she gave a shit, unlike her predecessor Cameron....who after his resignation speech, casually walked off and started whistling...summed up that idiot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teutone View Post
    Was there any good female political leader ever?

    Thatcher is the only one I can think of.
    Helen Clarke of NZ? Ellen Johnson-Sirleaf of Liberia? Benazir Bhutto? Indira Gandhi? Golda Meir? Michelle Bachelet? Mary Robinson?

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