Do i have armenian origins?

[andre]

I am beginning to suspect that I have distant Armenian origins, I get great somiliance with Hittites and Armenians of the Copper Age and even a little Bronze Age. On gedmatch I get more genetic closeness with the old Middle Easterners than with the Greeks or Mycenaeans.
Does anyone know how to tell if I had Armenian ancestors?

GEDMATCH:

M926386 (I1631 ArmeniaChL) [Migration - V3 - M]

Minimum segment threshold size to be included in total = 50 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 2.0 cM
Mismatch-bunching Limit will be adjusted dynamically to 60 percent of the segment threshold size for any given segment.

Largest segment = 5.7 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 123.7 cM (3.455 Pct)

43 shared segments found for this comparison.

78209 SNPs used for this comparison.

53.622 Pct SNPs are full identical

M497255 (RISE397 Armenia LBA [1048-855 BC]) [Migration - V4 - M]

Minimum segment threshold size to be included in total = 50 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 2.0 cM
Mismatch-bunching Limit will be adjusted dynamically to 60 percent of the segment threshold size for any given segment.
Largest segment = 5.4 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 8.7 cM (0.243 Pct)

2 shared segments found for this comparison.

22636 SNPs used for this comparison.

56.203 Pct SNPs are full identical

Z643830 (MA2206 Kalehoyuk 1750 BCE partner of MA2208) [Migration - F2 - Z]

Minimum segment threshold size to be included in total = 50 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 2.0 cM
Mismatch-bunching Limit will be adjusted dynamically to 60 percent of the segment threshold size for any given segment.

Largest segment = 9.1 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 104.9 cM (2.935 Pct)

25 shared segments found for this comparison.

48256 SNPs used for this comparison.

56.122 Pct SNPs are full identical

Z020190 (MA2200 Kalehoyuk c. 1750 BCE) [Migration - F2 - Z]

Minimum segment threshold size to be included in total = 50 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 2.0 cM
Mismatch-bunching Limit will be adjusted dynamically to 60 percent of the segment threshold size for any given segment.
Largest segment = 5.0 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 95.2 cM (2.658 Pct)

36 shared segments found for this comparison.

132687 SNPs used for this comparison.

53.827 Pct SNPs are full identical[/B]

[Ayetooey]

Almost every Euro matches with those old Armenian samples; some were posted here before and even NW Euros get high matches. If you were part Armenian you'd score west Asian in 23andme or whatever commercial test you took.

[21993]

It shows you have common ancestors with Armenians. Sharing segments does not necessarily mean that you have direct Armenian input. For this purpose, using Oracle would be better.

[andre]

Almost every Euro matches with those old Armenian samples; some were posted here before and even NW Euros get high matches. If you were part Armenian you'd score west Asian in 23andme or whatever commercial test you took.

23ANDME: No middle eastern.

My Heritage: eastern europe 45,4%, balkanic 27,3%, greek 22,5%, ashkenazi 3,2%, west asia 1,6%

Ftdna: Southest europe 55%, East europe 42%, Asia Minor <2%

[Nurzat]

Romanians usually have some recent Greek blood from the Greek boyars that fucked the village girls in the villages they owned. even I score a bit of Greek through my Moldovan maternal side because of that - there is enough Greek DNA in the Wallachian and Moldovan gene pool from all those village owners that were all Greek families until the communists kicked them out of Romania after WW2.

but Armenian - less likely. they've only had very small communities here and there in the bigger towns and were much less widespread than Jews in Romanian territory.

[Fiko0]

I dont understand something.

On pretty much every calculator i'm close to Armenians but i dont get any DNA match when i compare the 3 Armenian kits with my kit...

For example i do puntDNAL K12 Ancient and i get this:

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus_HG 45.78
2 Anatolian_NF 26.31
3 Near_East 13.34
4 European_HG 11.26
5 Oceanian 1.36
6 East_Asian 1.17
7 Amerindian 0.78

# Population (source) Distance
1 Armenian_MBA 7.37
2 BattleAxe_Sweden_SG_RISE94 31.47
3 Scythian_IA_I0247 33.01
4 Srubnaya_I0430 34.25
5 Bell_Beaker_Czech_RISE569 36.03
6 Poltavka_I0440 36.65
7 Sintashta_MBA_RISE_386 36.96
8 Alberstedt_LN_I0118 37.1
9 Nordic_LN_SG_RISE97 37.36
10 Corded_Ware_Germany_I0104 37.62
11 Andronovo_SG_RISE505 37.71
12 Yamnaya_Kalmykia_SG_RISE552 38.02
13 Srubnaya_I0232 38.75
14 Potapovka_I0419 38.8
15 Corded_Ware_Germany_I0103 38.87
16 Halberstadt_LBA_I0099 39.02
17 Unetice_EBA_I0117 39.36
18 Yamnaya_Samara_I0443 39.52
19 Sintashta_MBA_RISE395 40.09
20 Kostenki14_UP_SG 40.23

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MDLP K23b

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Armenian_ @ 7.166953
2 Armenian_Yerevan_ @ 8.234282
3 Georgian_Jew_ @ 8.621174
4 Turk_ @ 9.026234
5 Turk_Kayseri_ @ 9.153560
6 Kumyk_ @ 9.865261
7 Assyrian_Arzni_ @ 10.501605
8 Cirkassian_ @ 10.517879
9 Uzbek_Tashkent_ @ 10.941706
10 Uzbekistani_Jew_ @ 11.166934
11 Kabardin_ @ 11.226288
12 Jew_Tat_ @ 11.283790
13 Adygei_ @ 11.391193
14 Turk_Istanbul_ @ 11.455417
15 Baku_WGA_ @ 11.590756
16 Kurd_North_ @ 11.614942
17 Azeri_ @ 11.740870
18 Turk_Adana_ @ 11.757386
19 Kakheti_ @ 12.004977
20 Balkar_ @ 12.058258

[Mans not hot]

Romanians usually have some recent Greek blood from the Greek boyars that fucked the village girls in the villages they owned. even I score a bit of Greek through my Moldovan maternal side because of that - there is enough Greek DNA in the Wallachian and Moldovan gene pool from all those village owners that were all Greek families until the communists kicked them out of Romania after WW2.

but Armenian - less likely. they've only had very small communities here and there in the bigger towns and were much less widespread than Jews in Romanian territory.

Typical Med behaviour